Genelec Speakers

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  1. BobFV1

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    http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/8020TriPak/

    I have a smallish room that I want to turn in to a listening room for music - mostly symphonic and chamber music, some opera. My contact in the industry tells me that small, efficient powered speakers with a very high-end subwoofer is the way to go, connected up to an iMac or something.

    He saw the room and recommends Genelec 8020 "TriPak" above. I had never heard of them - I was an audiophile years ago but that was in the days of tubes and turntables.

    Anyone have any experience with these speakers? They ain't exactly cheap, but with audio equipment you get what you pay for, I guess - unless you purchase Bose products.

    Any experience or thoughts would be appreciated. And I want to provide fair warning that I have placed prophylactic duct tape on the crack of my butt so it won't do any good to tell me to stick the speakers there :lol3
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  4. Bongolia

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    Bob, room dimensions, height, and orientation of speakers/seating please.
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  5. BobFV1

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    Room dimensions -

    about 12 feet X 13 feet, with an 8 foot ceiling. A large bay window looks out into the side garden. I plan to line the back of the room with shelves for my media, and have two wing or leather chairs in the center of the room facing the bay window - here are a few pics:

    View of the side garden from the approximate "seating area" in the center of the room:

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    Larger view of the room with the flooring going in:

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    The other side of the room (TV is just stashed there during renovation) opposite the bay window:

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    Bad shot - but the only one I have with the floor in:

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    I'm not an audiophile and can't advise you, sorry, but I would be really interested to know why he advised 2.1 and not 4.1.

    :dunno
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    Whatever you decide, be sure to use some Rejex during the install.
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  8. Chopperman

    Chopperman I am dead

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    Not about speakers, but one of the coolest things I have seen is an old console - like the one your parents had - converted into a media server. dude took a mac mini and stashed it inside along with an amp. he dismantled a lcd monitor and mounted it to the underside of the lid. the software can be operated with a remote.

    one thing about using a computer as a media center - if you have really nice output - speakers and such - you may be annoyed by the lossiness in compressed files like MP3s. you might want to use a less lossy file type like ogg
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  9. Knighthawk

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    Bob, give this guy a call, he's in Alexandria, VA.

    High end quality engineered sound.

    Boulevard Audio
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  10. Bongolia

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    In the best traditions of these threads, I know nothing about your proposed choice. However, that never stops the collective from offering advice so here goes:

    I'd be tempted to go with a pair of small standmounted speakers there Bob.

    The ATC SCM7 gets good reviews for small rooms. Sealed cabinet too. The original Quad L11's were good, although a little shy on bass. The rear ports may be an issue with your bay windows.

    Quad did a stunning sub a couple of years back but I can't remember the name. A choice of veneer finishes and 5 coats of piano laquer.
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    Never forget :lol3
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  12. BobFV1

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    Chop - that's mega-cool.

    The salesman also happens to be my oldest son. He has his own small recording studio and sells pro-sound systems to professional musicians and venues through the Washington Music Center (http://www.washingtonmusic.com/) - he's been in the industry about 5 years and makes a pretty good living at it, so I assume he knows what he is talking about.

    With regard to the loss on digital files, he did raise that and suggested a high end file format, something better than MP3.

    I am still trying to get my head around efficiency (for use in this limited space application) versus just having a butt-load of power and using a little bit of it to minimize distortion.
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  13. rpo83

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    They are used a lot by integrators, doing whole home solutions.

    Genelec spend alot of time training dealers on acoustics and correct implementation of loudspeakers within a room.

    Once you have listened to a pair you will be hooked.

    I have spent over 25 years in the industry, specialising in brands such as Krell, SOTA, Apogee and Sonus Faber to name a few.

    I own a pair of Sonus Faber Extremas, and last year bought a pair of Genelec 1038's, nothing comes close.

    Go to Genelec's web site and have a read of their literature.

    Setting up subwoofers to work in harmony with main speakers is not a simple thing. One other option to explore would be Genelec's 8250/8240, it is an 8"/6" 2 way with very sophisticated onboard DSP. In most installs i have been involved in, we can get them flat in room to around 30Hz, with phenominal imaging.

    I don't know if your budget extends this far, but if it does, they may well be the last pair of speakers you will own. You would also need to purchase the GLM software and calibration kit.

    What are you using as a front end? Stereo pre/pwr, surround sound receiver, surround sound processor? Genelecs have balanced inputs on XLR connectors, if you have a pre/pwr combination, you can use the pwr amp to drive a second zone of audio if you wish. Every Genelec speaker has an individual amplifier channel for every driver.

    If you need links or more info feel free to PM me.

    I am half a world away, but i may be able to put you in contact with some people in the states. I specialise in High end audio design, and i am affiliated with Genelec, so take my information as you wish.

    However if you are after a product that will give you accurate, quality listening, you wont find much better. :thumb
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  14. Emoto

    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    Bob, there is no substitute for actually listening to speakers before you buy them. That looks like it is going to be a pretty "live" room. You may want a rug and other soft shit to soak up bouncing sound...
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    Putts is yer maun Bob, for all things audio. He had a good thread going here.

    Drop him a PM, I'm sure he'd be happy to help you out.

    :wave
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    Bob ,

    Check out FLAC.....

    It is a free loss-less compressor, i use it with foobar2000 as a player. It has a feature called replay gain, it automatically adjusts the output level to level match all your songs, it is very cool.
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  17. BobFV1

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    Yeah thanks - that was brought up also - thinking of solutions . . .

    Maybe one of those tapestries of dogs playing cards, or a 57 Chevy "chort" with fuzzy dice on black velvet.
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  18. BubbaZanetti

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    yeah man, listen to them


    don't let the "efficiency" thing be a hinderence, there are plenty of great sounding speakers with relatively low efficiency ratings due to the nature of their design that sound great. it's a fairly small room, so power shouldn't be a huge issue. i agree that the sub/separates is the way to go with a room of this size, frequency localization shouldn't me much of an issue. while i've not herd this system, Genelec is known as a top flight manufacturer and i've seen their monitors in many studios and mobile tv production trucks. i'm personally a fan of full sized speakers, but go with your ear. what makes someone else happy may not please you. i have a set of 2 way walsh speakers from the early 70s and they still sound awesome to me, but i've always had an "average" ear (and i don't listen to the "demanding" music you like).:lol3

    good luck!
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  19. Emoto

    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    A nice oriental rug would look good, and since you're in VA, a velvet Jesus or Elvis would work. :deal
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  20. Monroe

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    that's a beautiful room for music listening, enjoy your system shopping. I'm sure it will sound great.

    Steve
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