Generator Propane conversion &??'s

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  1. motoretro

    motoretro Been here awhile

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    My 5 year old Honda EB5000X has lost it's fuel prime therefore won't start and stay running. I can drizzle a bit of gas into spark plug hole and get it to start(pull) and running for 3-4 seconds at best. any ideas?

    This whole fuel issue leads me to think Propane might be a better choice. This is the second piece of equipment I've had go down due to Ethanol fuel issues. How difficult is the conversion? +'s & -'s?

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  2. ragtoplvr

    ragtoplvr Long timer

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    This is also how they act when low on oil

    be sure to check and top off

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  3. RVDan

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    Don't know if a kit is available for you Honda. I used to convert onan Rv generators all the time, took about an hour to instal the kit plus the time to run the propane line. Not too difficult
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    If it's been sitting for awhile, you probably have clogged carburetor jets, especially the idle jet.
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  5. motoretro

    motoretro Been here awhile

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    It's run every 6 months, new plugs and oil every year and always use fuel stabilizer. Local implement dealer mentioned even w/ stabilizer, They're replacing carburetors by the wheel barrel load.
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  6. gsweave

    gsweave Yinz, blinkers are on, since 05

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    ttpete Rectum Non Bustibus

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    I'd be draining the carburetor after each run. Only takes a minute.

    My generator's set up with an electric fuel pump so I can drop a sucker hose into any gas can and change them on the fly. I dump the cans into the truck every so often and get fresh gas.
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  8. motoretro

    motoretro Been here awhile

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    Neat set-up, how does it start in cold weather? Any reduction in power to drive the generator?
    Chonda.....Ironically my Honda is made in China .
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  9. gsweave

    gsweave Yinz, blinkers are on, since 05

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    No noticable change in power.


    No longer need any choke to start. they start everytime.


    We use em on emergency cooling pumps for melt furnaces. they must run within 5 minutes of a power failure.... otherwise ugly expensive shit happens


    This is ice indroduced to bath.... same thing happens if coolent is lost, which really would suck if you happen to be beside it.


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  10. motoretro

    motoretro Been here awhile

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    Oil is right up to the top.
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  11. motoretro

    motoretro Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the info, looks like a interesting occupation.
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  12. motoretro

    motoretro Been here awhile

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    This where it seems to be headed. Hopefully I can get the garage warm(It was 0 last night) enough to tear things down tonight. Trying to figure what solution I can use to soak the parts in to dislodge any varnish, crud.etc. Any ideas? Tried local car parts and Powersports places and they just shook their heads.
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    Lacquer thinner works well. You'll have to pass a fine wire through the idle jet, the solvent alone won't do it.
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    motoretro Been here awhile

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    I've a pint of Laquer thinner in the cabinet along with a set of torch tip cleaners, Thanks for the tip.
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    If the tip cleaners aren't fine enough, a bristle from a fine wire brush works well.
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  16. motoretro

    motoretro Been here awhile

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    The Main Jet was 99% blocked, probably a good thing It would not start:eek1 Needle jet wasn't entirely blocked although certainly had it's share of varnish. Thanks for all the help in diagnosing this.:freaky
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  17. motoretro

    motoretro Been here awhile

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    **As a follow up; I cleaned everything out w/ white vinegar/water mix bath (I'm into non-toxic brews these days) and blew out with air pressure. Reassemble everything, started 2nd pull. Let it run for couple hours, Back in the game.:1drink

    * Has anyone ever used White Vinegar in a Ultrasonic cleaner before? Seems like a unit w/ a built in heater would be a effiicent, non-toxic method to clean parts.


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  18. gsweave

    gsweave Yinz, blinkers are on, since 05

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    never used vinegar always just dish soap In ultrasonic cleaner...next one I clean I will give her a try..

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  19. jeep44

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    I've put a kit on my generator that allows me to use either gasoline, natural gas,or propane. I got it from the same place that is linked early in this thread. Aside from always having a clean carb, my thinking was that whenever a power outage hits, you are usually stuck with just the gasoline you have on hand, but the natural gas supply is almost never disrupted. My son found out about how useless a gasoline generator is during Hurricane Sandy-long,long lines to get a single can of expensive, cash-only gasoline. Now he has a tri-fuel generator like mine.
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  20. motoretro

    motoretro Been here awhile

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    I agree that multi-fuel looks like the way to go. Even with a fuel stabilizer, I could not believe the coating of yellowish residue on everything. My only concern w/ propane is the associated power loss. At this point I'm going to empty both carb and tank on Generator after using and keep a 2 gallon container on hand and recycle into family vehicles every 4 weeks to maintain a reasonably fresh supply of fuel. Most of our power outages are 2-3 hours so the 2 gallons will suffice. Anything longer and I'll siphon out of my truck.
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