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Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by damasovi, Jun 12, 2014.
Nice Stella JerryH.
(much like Ural is the only side car manufacturer)
Not true. Google is your friend.
Having sold Genuine scooters in an authorized dealership Im not a fan of the Stellas (4t or 2t) for the quality-issues Ive seen with my own eyes.
The PGO built Genuines scooters are fantastic....we've owned 4 of them in our personal colelction.
I saw the new ones 4t cvt and the other one (4 speed). I do am not a wrencher and love to just keep it on the road, so maybe I will pass on this very beautiful scooter and when I get to scooter #2 I will look again.
The TU is not California legal, and they do not sell them in mexico, and here we have a real Super Cub 2014 with Fi and stuff like that
Actually the 4 stroke Stella had no issues on the cannonball. It did need new tires but then all the small wheeled scoots needed at least two rear tires and some 3. The 2 stroke Stella finished but there was a rebuild on the side of the road. Took Frank not much more than an hour so he won the pool on when the Stella would be out of the cannonball - it wasn't. He finished. 18th out of 28 while the 4 stroke was down at 25th. http://scootercannonball.com Completely different story from 2012 where only 1 of 3 Stellas finished.http://www.scootercannonball.com/results/2012Updates.php
looking at the numbers, svhess didn't seem to be doing the 'ride it like you stole it' technique...looked pretty consistant.
A stock 2 stroke Stella is certainly no race bike, but they can be modified for it. My stock Stella has close to 12,000 miles on it. It had a seized top end at around 400 miles, and a stator failure about 4,000 miles ago. But otherwise it has provided me with 12,000 miles of serious fun, much more so than any CVT scooter I have owned. But I would not choose it for racing or even serious commuting. Like I remember someone here saying, you need to choose the right tool for the job.
Genuine puts out some nice scoots and lots of accessories for them and a broad dealer network.
I've always had Hondas and Yamahas, but did not hesitate to buy a Genuine.
As a shortie I also love the low profile seat options.
They are priced moderately and will run for tens of thousands of miles.
There's a reason they have their own forums and fan base...people love them!
Buddy, Hooligan, Blur, Stella, Black Cat, Roughhouse, Rattler...50, 125, 150, 170i...
A scoot for every need and desire!
I did not keep mine because they run a little loud and rough for my riding enjoyment.
Otherwise, mine was a nice scooter. Just not for me due to those reasons.
I agree and disagree. People love the Buddy and Stella.
Rattler/Roughouse never sold well and the blur is near unicorn like. Never see one. Jury out on how the Hooligan will sell.
The one thing I don't care for is that their dealers are to often with a Vespa dealer with limited stock. Few stand alone. That, in my experience, led to higher service fees and they also were pushing Vespas first.
Other than that like I said Stella and Buddy are loved ,the other models have not done well.
I have a friend that finished the 2014 Scooter Cannonball on a 2T Stella. It seems to be a great bike. Anyother guy in the local scooter club here has a 4T Stella with sidecar.
Genuine Buddy is a good scoot from all I have seen and heard.
If you think a Stella is expensive (I got mine for under $3000 OTD) just compare it to a totally restored Vespa P series. The Vespa will cost twice as much. I did not buy the Stella for long distance touring, I bought it for riding around locally, enjoying the experience of riding a vintage 2 stroke manual shift scooter. If you have never ridden one, it's a whole different world from a modern CVT scooter. And 2 stroke Stellas actually seem to be holding their value fairly well. It will probably actually start to increase eventually, because other than a real vintage Vespa at a ridiculous cost, the Stella is the only alternative.
Before I bought the Royal Enfield, I looked into getting a vintage Triumph. Remember those back when they were new? Cheap and very unreliable. Now a nicely restored one costs 2 1/2 to 3 times the price of the Enfield.
hmmmm, another friendly helpful reply..
I test rode a Stella here in SD a few years ago. It was fun. It needed some adjustments to the idle, too low. Easy fix with a small screwdriver. I was over controlling it at first from my motorcycle reflexes, but I got used to it pretty quickly. The manual shift was fun! This was the 4 stroke version with a 150cc engine I believe. From what I was told, the Indian co that builds the Stella also built the PX series for Vespa towards the end of the product cycle.
I have been wanting one for a few years myself..
I have a 4t stella too, there was idle adjustment needed also, and a vapor-lock situation a few times... popped on a 2t vented gas cap, had dealer adjust carb and viola! no more problems. Remember they are shipped all over the world and most of that doesn't use e15 gas (or so I was told on MB forum) so here it runs like crap until adjusted.
I saw a 2009 Stella 2T with 500-miles on Craigslist. Seller wants MSRP for it ($3500).
I'm tempted to try one, if the value will continue to increase.
My Buddy 125 has 2000 miles on it now. It has been dead reliable and a lot of fun.
Well I'm in Texas. It's all that oil money (I've been told) that drive up prices.
Considering I paid under $3000 brand new for mine, I'd say $2500 for a used one is holding it's value pretty good. As good or better than any Asian scooter (I don't mean Chinese) I suspect the price will start to go back up as demand increases. Due to the rarity and cost of a real vintage Vespa, and because of the EPA, there will never be any more 2 stroke scooters sold in the U.S. (at least not 150cc) demand for Stellas will continue to increase, as they will be the least expensive way to have a 2 stroke manual shift scooter. Replacement and tuning parts will always be there.
Yes LML did in fact build real Vespas at one time, with Vespa badges on them. There is not much difference between a Stella and a real LML built Vespa but the name.
As for Genuine scooters in general, it seems the Buddy is by far the best of them as far as reliability goes.
Izzat your boat in the background? 'Cause it's SWEET!
I know in india, stella's (or "star" as the LML badge) are used for everything...from removing the rear wheel and used as a wench to piling the whole family on. It truly amazes me. :eek1