Gerbings Heated Jacket Recall

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by Ride4Coffee, Apr 17, 2013.

  1. AdventurePoser

    AdventurePoser Long timer

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    I've had my jacket since 02, I believe. It works great, but I'd never put in on high...at "Full Scorch" this jacket gets warmer than I can tolerate-and that's when I'm wearing it properly!

    Good luck to everyone who is having issues with your jackets. Gerbing customer service has always been great for me-hope your jackets are replaced/fixed asap!
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  2. Shov3BR

    Shov3BR Tinkerer

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    This is all very interesting. Several years ago I bought a Gerbing jacket for my wife and was surprised to find that the power connections were through a 5.5mm x 2.5mm coax (barrel) jack & plug. These connector sets are typically rated to 5A max. If you add up a jacket (6.4A), pants (3.6A) & gloves (2.2A) 12.2A total, you are carrying a lot of current through that barrel set.
    I questioned the ability to carry the 15A that they claimed at the time and called the Gerbing people to see what they had to say. They claimed that their connector parts were specifically manufactured to their specs and they warned users not to use any other manufacturers parts in their place. It is interesting to note that they no longer list any specifications for their controllers, cables & wiring or connectors that I can find. In fact their website sucks big time. It is some horrible book thing with NO controllers or cables listed.

    A few years ago we looked for a similar barrel connector set for some military electronics and the highest current capability we could find was 5A. More recently, when we went looking for a barrel connector set for our Baryl product line we were able to find a 7.5A jack and plug pair. This is still a long way from 15A. We specifically warn our users that they cannot power heated clothing with our Baryl jacks and plugs.

    I'm now wondering if they did indeed have some special high current barrel connector sets at one time but tried to go cheap and dirty with some catalog items that wouldn't carry the current. It would interesting to know what changed in their manufacturing process and materials.
    Cheers,
    -Shov
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  3. danham

    danham Been here awhile

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    Very, very interesting. Thanks! I'm more and more convinced the burn I got was not from the jacket wiring, but from the connectors overheating.

    Maybe Gerbing thinks that the control will keep things down to a dull roar via pulsing? The only time I had trouble was on a cold, wet 15-hour ride (!).

    -dan
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  4. _cy_

    _cy_ Long timer

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    your analysis misses one very important point. which is rarely does anyone leave their heated clothing on high for very long. note I'm basing my comments on my old style insulated Gerbings using wired dual controller.

    have not used new style Gerbings jacket without insulation. so more heat may be needed due to lack of insulation. also lack of insulation would exacerbate burn problems. having insulation between your skin and heating elements cannot be a bad thing.

    pulse width modulation is how output going to heated jacket/pants/gloves are controlled. I've ran my old style Gerbing insulated gear down to 15f with a one piece Aerostich RC and ran it about half way on dial. jacket/pants/gloves combo... have only used heated socks one time. stuck with heavy wool socks.

    just upgraded to wireless dual controllers .. we'll see how that goes. sure is nice to reduce clutter of wires. hard to test much at 95f :D
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