Glove knuckle armor - marketing gimmick or useful?

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  1. appliance57

    appliance57 Long timer

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    Hard to find a glove without knuckle armor - can't hurt. Palm sliders and a pinky bridge make a lot of sense to me though.
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  2. YJake

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    After several street get-offs the section of the glove that took the most damage was the palm, bottom of hand below pinky finger, and the outside of the gauntlet.

    Palm sliders or suprafabric work very well.

    My new High Racer gloves have knuckle protection as well as knox palm sliders and lots of other good protective features. I'm liking them as much or more than the held Steve classics I'd had for several years.

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  3. appliance57

    appliance57 Long timer

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    Have the high racers as well - a beautiful glove.
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    Hard plastic all the way. Having contact with many a cactus in Southern Baja I swear by them.
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    atravlr www.atasecuretravel.com

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  6. a2ronm

    a2ronm Ti-6Al-4V

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    "....High-impact, aggressive titanium knuckle protection with Poron® XRD™ impact protection ...."

    Riding home from work, head on collision with a SUV (their fault), my left hand hit the passenger side headlight pod, took a chunk out of the knuckle titanium but my hand was injury free. Below the waist I was un-armored and sufferred for it.

    Worked for me, all my gloves have knuckle protection.
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  7. CDMAN

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    Glove knuckle armour is good, not a thing wrong with any quality armour. I do have an issue with carbon fibre as it is generally a marketing gimmik. Carbon fibre is light and strong in tensile strength. Not strong in shear strength. Cracks and reveals a sharp cutting edge. But it is a sexy marketing tool. The better product is kevlar as it is very strong in shear and abrasion (bullet proof vests).
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  8. dietDrThunder

    dietDrThunder Why so serious, son?

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    The shards-in-your-knuckles thing is complete marketing hogwash from Lee Parks. About a zillion years ago, there was one particular carbon fiber-equipped glove that had a poorly conceived cf formulation for the knuckle armor, and they would break into pieces and injure hands. I forget which ones it was, but it was one model, which was immediately replaced by a different model, and that was that. Roughly 10 bazillion gloves have had cf knuckle guards since, and the shard damage thing has not been an issue.

    Also, as for the OP, my personal anecdotal evidence is that it works, and I'm not inclined to ride without it. I've had a street getoff and a couple track crashed that resulted in significant damage to the cf knuckles of my gloves, and 0 damage to the hands inside them, fwiw.
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  9. istadniy

    istadniy Ivan the Quite OK

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    100 kph highside followed by a slide to a gentle stop. Managed to scuff up both the palm and the knuckle guard on the left glove, right is just dirty.
    The knuckle guard is hard plastic with leather over it and soft padding under it. No injury to hands.

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    WindBlast Cunning Linguist

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    Anything that is more durable than me covering anything softer of me is a good thing for me.
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  11. FJ60advman

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    I like my Klim Induction gloves, fit nice, and give you that extra knuckle protection for those car windows and what the bark buster doesn't protect you from.
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  12. michaeln

    michaeln What're YOU lookin' at?

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    I just got a pair of Revit Dominator GTX gloves. The knuckle protector on those is aluminum.
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  13. Nnordsman

    Nnordsman Nnordsman

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    Hard armor and a retention strap all the way. I had my first high speed pavement crash this summer after 25 years of riding. The top of my hand slapped down against the pavement hard enough to blow out two seams. So much for Roadgear stitching. The armored knuckles had no issue. The unarmored knuckles on my fingers were uncomfortable for two-weeks.
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  14. Stranger01

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    So what do you all think of something like Mechanix Armored gloves? Screenshot_20171114-215731.jpg

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  15. squish

    squish Out of the office.

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    I've not seen a study that looks at specific glove features and their likely-hood of preventing or mitigating injuries to the hand in motorcycle crashes.

    So with that I have to go on my own personal experience either with my gloves of those of the folks around me.

    Here's what I've seen;
    palms, then the outside edge then the back of the hand is the order of impact in most crashes

    Palm abrasion, broken or crushed fingers are frequent injury types, especially the pinky finger getting caught between the lever and the pavement.

    Retention devices don't keep the glove on, or there are on present.

    Hard coated carbon fiber sections that with UV light the resin has broken down and the resin then cracks.
    Hard sections of knuckle armor that doesn't line up with the knuckles, especially after a year and a few thousand miles as the leather starts to loosen up and break-in/breakdown.

    I've seen most gloves that have failed, have failed at the seams or their retention device didn't keep the glove on.

    For me, I have gauntlet gloves that provide padding over the knuckles and ulna protection along with good palm and outside of the hand protection.

    I don't currently ride with a carbon fiber knuckle guard glove, but I have and if i find one at a decent price that fits, I'd ride with one again.
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  17. Yossarian™

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    A bit off topic, but I still have a decent pair of O'Neal road racing gloves from the 90's. They have a grid pattern of steel rivets on the lower outside of each palm. to serve as hard sliders for palm-down impacts. Obviously this "tech" is not used any longer, nor for quite some time. But it did have its day. I never did hear anything about if this was not a safe method of protection (jokes expected.)
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  18. viajero

    viajero Too old to be a nOOb

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    Just a quick look at what top level road racers use should be enough to convince anyone that knuckle armor is NOT a gimmick.

    They crash all the time, have access to the very best safety gear, and EVERY ONE of them wear armored gloves.

    Granted, not all armor is equal, but some is better than none.

    Just my $.02.
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  19. BobcatSig

    BobcatSig Dirt Road Gaper

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    Yes. There's a stark difference between abrasion resistance and impact resistance.

    In that marketing sheet, there's a picture of a slide on the palm with no details on the accident, aside from a mention of speed.

    Regarding that garbage about carbon fiber knuckle, we know nothing of that incident, the type of carbon, age of the glove, construction or anything pertinent to the case. It's all FUD by Lee Parks. Not all carbon fiber is created equal.

    After a rather spectacular wreck at the track this summer on my 899, there's no way in hell that you're going to tell me that a deerskin glove with no armor is going to be better than a top flight race glove. Ever.

    I wouldn't, unless I was on a dirt bike. Thta glove is no designed for impacts at motorcycle speeds, abrasion and seem strength needed in crashes.

    Bingo.
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    S21FOLGORE Been here awhile

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