GM Shoddiness & Crappy Build & Materials Quality

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by Nytelyte, Dec 9, 2012.

  1. JBADV

    JBADV searching for sanity

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    :nod GM got screwed on that deal.
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  2. MightyChosen1

    MightyChosen1 I wanna be sedated

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    I just sold my 2007 Silverado. It had an array of nagging problems over the years, electrical,brakes and such but the main reason I decided it was time to part ways was the rust. This thing was popping thru everywhere. Doors, Cab corners, rockers, and wheel-wells were all getting pretty bad. The thing was pretty much a garage queen is the ironic part, It had seen it share of winter driving but always was washed at least once a week when there was salt on the road.

    After pretty much owning nothing but GM for 20+ years I am done. My next vehicle will probably be a Ford.
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  3. Crocodile Tears

    Crocodile Tears Anti-Semantic

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    they got the wrong BMW

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  4. FinlandThumper

    FinlandThumper Has Cake/Eats it Too Super Moderator

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    Nice! And just what I was thinking. Sold my 518 with 200k plus, had a 3 series, now on an x3. Great cars.

    As to GM, fuck that noise. I have had fords and they did well, couple chryslers in the family that were ok. But GM? What a joke.
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  5. fullmonte

    fullmonte Reformed Kneedragger

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    Congrats. I have the same car with the V6. Not sure why, but the traction control comes on alot. Your wife shouldn't have that problem as her new car has 103 less hp.:evil
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  6. SourKraut

    SourKraut Long timer

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    Funny, I just made the opposite switch, Ford to Chevy because I couldn't reward Ford for selling garbage (06 F150 in this case). I think the point is that all cars are garbage now and you just have to get lucky and sell them at five years old.
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  7. Nytelyte

    Nytelyte Somewhere about

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    :lol3 We drove the v6, but she was happy with the 4, said it felt faster than her saturn and that was already plenty, paying the premium for that engine wasn't worth it to us.

    Besides, I have the bikes for speedy needs. My GLI isn't a slouch either.

    She just messaged me from work: "I just want to leave and go driving. And I parked it WAY out in the parking lot all by itself." :clap If she is happy, I'm happy. :thumb
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  8. FPGT72

    FPGT72 Long timer

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    The point is...it was built to a price point that GM wanted.
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  9. FPGT72

    FPGT72 Long timer

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    GM can't build a car that is worth a pile of crap. Same goes for Dodge, our fords seem to be the best of the lot.

    Where I work we have a fleet of Fords, Old Crown vics, and now the new 4wd tarus....so far great cars and FAST....zero problems from them so far....we also have some escapes and explorers....same thing...so far so good.

    The impallas every one of them chewed the back tires off in a few thousand miles....seem they are all built a little off...took them in and they fixed it....but they still are falling apart....little plastic bits bust all the time, windows controls, shifters, glove boxes....little crap that is just a pain.

    Dodge is the worst, chargers.....what a great car....when you can start it....when it runs. Front ends weak...struts, on half of them, brakes on all of them at about 30k. The key fobs will not start the cars....we have had 4 had to be dragged up on a flat bed to be fixed.
    I really was looking at a challenger....but after seeing what the fleet chargers are doing I am going to cross it off my list and get a Mustang.

    Out of all of them the Fords are the best.....just my 2 bits.
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  10. Meter Man

    Meter Man Living on a prayer

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    I owned a 1995 Chevrolet Camaro from new for about 5 years.:cry

    Haven't bought a GM or a new car since then.

    I assume the techs in St Therese, Quebec were drunk all the time baed on the quality of that car.
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  11. NSpooner

    NSpooner Adventurer

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    I've got a 2005 Vibe and really its a solid little car. I use it for work and I'm a sales rep so I need something that is dead reliable plus some room for samples and catalogs. I have 120k miles on it now and I think it will hit 200 without much issue. I will say its a boring car to drive though and has no power but it gets good mileage and always starts which is big for me. If I didn't put 35k miles a year on my cars for sure I would have something else (my wife always gets the fun cars) but for what it is I can't find much fault in it.
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  12. Jurgen

    Jurgen Trolljegeren Super Moderator

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    I have a 2005 GMC Canyon, just rolled over 100,000 miles.

    Two minor recall for brake lights.

    Had to replace a tail light.

    The overhead dome light won't stay on consistently when the door is opened.

    The Horror, The Horror.
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  13. kobudo28

    kobudo28 Banned

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    My son's car is an 05 Matrix, A/T, awd with 140K+ on the odometer. I bought it used to replace the biggest POS I have ever owned, a Dodge Neon that was his first car. Other than some minor work I did to the car when I bought it used, damage from the previous owner, it has been a good car for him. It needs the exhaust replaced but it is the original as far as I know and in NH a 7yo stock exhaust is very good.
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  14. adam_c_eckhardt

    adam_c_eckhardt halfway there

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    This thread seems like another great opportunity for me to say what a piece of shit my GMC truck is. I hate it and it is a pile of shit. I passed one just like it on fire the other day (route 89 in NH) and said out loud, "God I wish that was mine."

    Anyways- I think you're right. They're all junk these days. I'm trying to talk my wife into leasing our vehicles from here on out. Drive nice new stuff all the time and give it back before it's out of warranty. Sweet deal.
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  15. ShadyRascal

    ShadyRascal Master of None

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    I have a 2003 Silverado Duramax that I bought new. 152,000 miles now, pulled lots of trailers with it. Still like new and actually has original brakes with lots of meat left. Gets honest 20+ mpg on the highway and with my programmer will run away from most cars. Those japs don't know how to build a real truck yet.
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  16. bolink654

    bolink654 Adventurer

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    I dunno about the newest stuff... but I have a 1998 Toyota Camry with 235k on it. Worst problem so far was at 215k a leaking front transmission seal. I changed it in the driveway in 2 rainy crappy days. Last tank of gas it pulled in 30.5 mpg. I'm hoping for 300k out of it. Just put all new belts, hoses, tires, brakes, struts on it.

    Also, 1982 Toyota pickup, the odometer stuck at 298k, however a previous owner put the engine and trans out of a 91 in it. Would be a really nice truck if there was anything left of the driver seat.

    Also own a 1997 Ram with 215k on it. Rebuilt transmission at 160k. Dash is about gone. Needs ball joints.

    Just recently bought a 1965 Mustang and a 1999 Mustang. The 1999 Mustang is nicer than similar year Chevys and Dodges, but it does not hold a candle to the Toyotas. And the 65... Hey 'Murica knew how to build cars back then.
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  17. PoundSand

    PoundSand Long timer

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    let's start by setting expectations- how long a expected life do you think cars should be built for?
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  18. Shadow10

    Shadow10 Been here awhile

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    Similar experiences with GM (Holden) in my part of the world. The build quality is terrible, they will do anything to get out of warranty claims and the development is way behind. Ford don't fare much better. Now they are both crying poor and whining that sales are down resulting in cutting production and staff. Theres no way I will part with my hard earned for their over priced, poor quality, rolling pieces of crap.

    Theres a reason why Toyota is so popular.
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  19. JBADV

    JBADV searching for sanity

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    2013 Dodge Ram 1500, Motor Trend "Truck of the Year". :clap
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  20. adam_c_eckhardt

    adam_c_eckhardt halfway there

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    If I paid them enough money my wheelbarrow would make "Truck of the year."
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