GM Shoddiness & Crappy Build & Materials Quality

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by Nytelyte, Dec 9, 2012.

  1. troidus

    troidus Long timer

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  2. green hell

    green hell yawning or snarling

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    i don't recall the steel, but the bearing end of the shafts were induction hardened after machining. (also don't remember the customer or if there were any finishing operations. :lol3)
  3. fullmonte

    fullmonte Reformed Kneedragger

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    Thanks to people like you, I have saved many tens of thousands over the last 20 years in depreciation costs.:deal I pay cash and buy used (non euro)cars in good condition. I usually drive them until 150K miles.
  4. koncha

    koncha .

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    You're welcome to my ass-gas infused seats. Well worth the depreciation. :deal
  5. Motornoggin

    Motornoggin Two-Bit Throttle Bum

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    Actually, they are made from tool steel (many, many different varieties of treatable steel), hardened, then precision ground, just like a bearing.
  6. Bun-bun

    Bun-bun Been here awhile

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    Here's one for the books, my 2004 Buick Rendezvous transmission speed sensor failed, causing the transmission computer to perform hard shifts, which broke the transmission output ring gear, which chipped the planetary gear assembly, and the sun gear on the transfer case. Because of a failed $20 sensor, I now need a new transmission computer, transmission, and transfer case.
    Oh, and all of you with GM AWD cars from the early oughts remember: Your rear diff fluid needs to be changed every 50k miles. It take 2 quarts. GM sells the diff fluid at their dealers for $50 per quart. OEHQ.com sells it for half of that, but that is still felony robbery for a quart of fluid that won't get you drunk.
  7. mark883

    mark883 and the mysterians

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    Hmm. Maybe that explains why BMW buys their X3 transmissions from GM.
  8. RedRocket

    RedRocket Yeah! I want Cheesy Poofs

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    You should feel worse about admitting to owning a Rendezvous .
  9. Bueller

    Bueller Cashin?

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    What he feels worst about is the fact that he kept driving with the failed speed sensor and hard shifts, which is the reason the gear damage occurred.
  10. Bricen18

    Bricen18 Been here awhile

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    How many of you have experienced the leaky crimp fittings on the oil and tranny cooler supply and return lines. For example 05 Chevy truck (oil) 06 Chevy 2500 (oil) Pontiac grand Prix (tranny).

    grand Prix had tranny replaced under warranty under 60K miles WTF

    Chevy wheel bearing design is garbage as well.
  11. Motornoggin

    Motornoggin Two-Bit Throttle Bum

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    I sell way more Ford and Dodge bearing assemblies (and steering/suspension parts) than GM, by a large margin.
  12. Nailhead

    Nailhead Free at last!

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    I did not know that.

    Glad to hear it. :thumb
  13. Nailhead

    Nailhead Free at last!

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    Yes-- see "S10" above.

    Saw the same problem on a PS hose crimp under an '07 F150 the other day.
  14. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    I hate Rav4s.



























    But I'd still own one over any GM product...
  15. a1fa

    a1fa Throttle Jockey™

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    That's because Fords are being driven while GM sits at junk yards.
  16. Elburrito

    Elburrito Donkey

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    that's true, although I owned a ridgeline for 7 years and when I took it into norther quebec it held it's own quiet well. I used it to haul my boat and camper from time to time, but overall it was my cottage truck. I put on 230,000km and had zero issues with that vehicle. I was hoping Honda would have come out with a full size truck like toyota but they never changed, and are still the same vehicle they came out with in 2006.

    I ended up buying a new RAM Laramie to replace it and couldn't be happier. :wink:

    Depending on what you need a vehicle for, the Ridgeline is one solid, extremely dependable vehicle.
  17. Mambo Dave

    Mambo Dave Backyard Adventurer

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    As much as I dislike to do it, my truck is getting older and in need of head gaskets... where-as I have a source to possibly pick up a Ridgeline for a low price.

    My days of 'hopeful' mudding are probably over ('hopeful' because I never could afford a real mudding truck anyway), but at least the Ridgeline seems to have a long enough bed to pick up one of my stranded motorcycles if need be.
  18. Elburrito

    Elburrito Donkey

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    A mudding truck, the Ridgeline is not. I did find the bed on the small size, but it was big enough to carry my new KLR home when I bought it.

    [​IMG]
  19. Mambo Dave

    Mambo Dave Backyard Adventurer

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    And that's all I guess I need. That, or an El Camino... but IIRC, El Camino's had no good tie-off points for motorcycles.

  20. Nailhead

    Nailhead Free at last!

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    I remembered another GM engineering plum:

    The door hinge pins on S10's whose bushings crack and fall out without regular lubrication (think monthly in dusty environments). The pins then wear into the hinge bracket which is welded to the cab.

    The fix is welding the holes up & redrilling them, which is not an easy operation according to a friend of mine who owns a body shop.