Going Subterranean, caves, mines, and holes

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  1. TheRoss

    TheRoss Been here awhile

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    That is a carbide lamp. The caves in this area are so massive we just never worried about unsafe gasses. We were also in known caves... sometimes pushing new passages, but doing so in familiar caves. In smaller tighter caves we would use electric lamps so we didn't mark the ceiling with soot.

    I have heard about caves with gas issues, and knew cavers who carried lighters with them, but never encountered them personally.
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  2. hugemoth

    hugemoth Big Brother is watching you!

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    Central Oregon where I live is all volcanos and lava so we have many lava tubes. Some are more than a mile long and have ceilings over 50' tall in places. Nothing as interesting as limestone caverns with all the interesting shapes but still fun to explore. Some are partially ice filled year round so they're a good place to visit on a hot summer day.

    Several years ago I discovered a large lava tube while flying my ultralight in a remote area. No road or trail going to it and it's not on any map. We later rode the trail bikes as close as we could get then hiked about a mile to the opening. It was about a 30' diameter hole in the top of a large lava tube with no obvious way in unless you had climbing gear. My daughter managed to find another entrance so we in to explore. About 3/4 mile back in we found a guy's name and a date of 1928 written on a wall with soot from a burned stick. No signs of anyone being there for a long long time.

    Another known lava tube in the general area has big piles of obsidian flakes where the Indians sat to make arrow heads. Just inside the entrance were two sets of fresh cougar tracks, one large and one small, heading in, so we didn't go in very far.
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  3. Range Motorsport

    Range Motorsport Junk collector

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    We occasionally encounter wildlife when exploring, raccoons, mice, weasels, porcupines, and bats. No bears or cougars yet.

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  4. 68deluxe

    68deluxe Long timer

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    In the 70's I was stationed at Richmond KY and did a little caving. There was this "dry" cave we went into a few times, the last time I was standing in this huge open area and heard running water. One of the other guys said I was standing over a stream, he did not know how thick the floor was or how big the opening below. :eek1 That was the last time I went into a cave.
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  5. Range Motorsport

    Range Motorsport Junk collector

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    Here I am about to take off into the unknown all alone. This level had been underwater for 100+ years and we had been running a diesel pump for a month to get it down to waist deep water.

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    The water is usually 40 degrees so brief swims require a wetsuit.
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  6. RebelYell

    RebelYell Been here awhile

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    :clapPlease post more I love this stuff!Always wanted to be a spelunker just never did it or found the right circle of people to do it with i guess.
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  7. rapidoxidationman

    rapidoxidationman Easily trainable

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    It ain't caving if you ain't getting wet climbing an icy waterfall
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    or rapelling down a waterfall...:clap
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    There's something to be said for swimming inside a mountain in the middle of winter...
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  8. rawdog

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  9. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    Same here, let me dig them up tonight.

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    This was all I had in my Photobucket. Luray Caverns, from about 15 years and 100 pounds ago.

    I spent many weekends in abandond mines outside of Las Vegas in the 90's. Great times, and interesting stuff. I'll dig up some shots later.
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  10. Range Motorsport

    Range Motorsport Junk collector

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    A couple years ago we had an ice flow in one of the shafts and I got to rappel down it. It had been melting for a few months and still looked like this, it was the weekend after 4th of July.
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    looking up to the top, angle is about 45 degrees.
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    With the lights off
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    ice crampons were necessary
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  11. rapidoxidationman

    rapidoxidationman Easily trainable

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    Water does some pretty neat stuff all by itself...

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  12. Range Motorsport

    Range Motorsport Junk collector

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    We have been known to use our little slice of underground for all the stuff you can't do in other peoples property. Like 4th of July!

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  13. Range Motorsport

    Range Motorsport Junk collector

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    One of my jobs is designing and building mine enclosures. There are hundreds of these old mine openings.
    For this one we opened up an old access adit to get to the inside of the shaft without hoisting the heavy steel down the shaft. A makeshift bridge allowed us to zip line the steel across.
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  14. Range Motorsport

    Range Motorsport Junk collector

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    Here's a look at the bridge across the shaft.

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  15. RebelYell

    RebelYell Been here awhile

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    Yea dont get shafted now lol.love mines too.been to luray,lost caverns,crystal ,Shenandoah and howe caverns
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  16. RebelYell

    RebelYell Been here awhile

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    I always wondered if alot of cave systems,dumbs,mines either interconnect or very well could if they wanted them too?
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  17. Manuel Garcia O'Kely

    Manuel Garcia O'Kely Back at last

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    I've got issues with enclosed spaces, but for natural caves, Deep Creek Canyon in Colorado has an extensive assortment of natural caves, most of them dry, some of them not fully explored.

    Ton-Tick Cave, Groaning cave, others.
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  18. phillyrube

    phillyrube Long timer

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    Did a lot of neat rescue stuff, confined space and such. Crawled around on the Nimitz in the yards, doing gas free work. Voids under the main engine rooms, fuel tanks.... Don't do caves you gotta crawl through and don't do trenches.

    "I went caving twice in college. There's a nice cave in western NH we went to. Had to use a bucket brigade to empty the water out of a 10' narrow section, and then you could shimmy through it on your belly. It was only shoulder width wide, and we had to turn our heads sideways so the helmets would fit through. One arm forward/up, the other down, in case you got stuck. "

    I heard about a Boy Scout leader who tried to crawl through a little tube, piece of rock broke, and pinned his head, acting like a keystone. Died of hypothermia and they had to leave him there.

    Uh, no thanks. My speed is Luray Caverns, and exploring old coast artillery forts, made of reinforced concrete.
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    Schmokel Riding gear saved my life.

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  20. UngaWunga

    UngaWunga Mosquito bait

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    Zombie thread is alive!

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