Goliath has come to play

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by MIXR, Dec 11, 2011.

  1. pops

    pops Long timer

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    Brings a tear to my eyes Mick.GSA Sidecar porn:clap

    Pooncarie this year ? How many gsa sidecars can we get there?


    I have gone over to two wheel drive Mick , I do have a spare rear car wheel adaptor for the gsa
    If you want to try it out . PM me .
    I think you could get a rim made for it over there .Only has to be a 15x5 car rim with 65mm back space .It works with standard bmw exhaust .And standard bmw wheel studs .

    My Rear Wilbers shock has blown the preload again 3rd time .I might have to look into going the same way as you and Andrew for our next rear shock.:deal.


    Cheers Ian
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  2. MIXR

    MIXR Been here awhile

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    Maybe Pooncarie if it ties in with my plans for a West FarRide. I'm waiting for my mate Rob (at Geraldton WA) to sort his job out and lock a ride in with me. I'm flexible and can work around any dates, but setting up for WA is the priority. Long haul with the outfit.

    Laurie (Suspension Smith) did Andrew2's shock a bit different to mine and put a very large pre-load spacer at the top rather than at the bottom. Maybe 20mm? Not sure. He also mentioned that the shock probably (in his opinion) wasn't set with correct valving. Anyway, Andrew is running at a much lower preload that he was and has ample scope to set it stiffer if needed. He's even backed it off a click (or two?) from what Laurie set up. Turns out Andrew has the same spring as me. 18 (17.9) kg. Considereing the size of the rig and weight effects, I thought his rig was great on the road. Much firmer than mine, but needed as my chair is half the size and weight.

    Ian - I'll PM you on the rear wheel stuff. Cheers, Mick.
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  3. Andrew2

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    G'day Mick,
    it was great to catch up with you and Kipper.Thanks for your hospitality over the weekend.How was your ride home from Bundanoon.I stayed dry all the way home and as soon as I put the bike in the garage it bucketed down:lol3.
    I'm happy to hear your diff oil came out clean as well:thumb.Have a safe trip next weekend.

    Cheers
    Andrew
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  4. Andrew2

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    Yep,23mm all up including the preload spacer that was already in there from the last bloke who worked on my shock.
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  5. MIXR

    MIXR Been here awhile

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    Anytime Andrew. Dogs and Kids welcome.

    I missed most of the storms, but hit one doozy. Short and sharp, and dried off after, but I noted two things that are good for next weekend. One was that Kipper didn't pick up as much water as I thought. Most blows over or around now, but I need another skirt on the left side of the tub. The other was that big, deep puddles hit at speed can be a problem. Not for the bike, but if the bike is in shallow water and the chair hits a deep one, it doesn't aquaplane, but just drags everything left! My chair doesn't have the mass to carry it through, so it tries to stop! Just something else to watch on my lighter rig.

    Can you send me the brand and size details on your pusher tyre? I may (will) take up POP'S offer when I return from Nambucca. I did look, but didn't write it down.

    Cheers, and thanks for the great company. Glad you're happy with the suspension outcome. Make sure you chat with Ian. I know I'm happy with Laurie's work, so if you are as well, then maybe it will solve Ian's issues.

    Cheers, Mick.
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  6. 3legs

    3legs Real men ride sidecars

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    Jeez Mick, I hope you locked up any daughters you have and the fridge. You were game letting Andrew into your house:lol3:lol3:lol3

    3legs
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  7. MIXR

    MIXR Been here awhile

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    Daughters long-gone and he drinks stuff I don't have, so he brought his own. Thanks for the warning for next time! Your name came up a few times though. Got you worried now?

    Cheers, Mick.
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  8. 3legs

    3legs Real men ride sidecars

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    :lol3:lol3:lol3 Mick. Knowing Andrew he must have told you what a nice fellow I'am and didn't say a bad thing about me.......NOT.

    Hi Andrew:clap Just kidding.

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  9. Andrew2

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    Your not a bad bloke Alex......for a South Australian:lol3
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  10. 3legs

    3legs Real men ride sidecars

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    Could be worse. I could be a Victorian:lol3

    3legs
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  11. Andrew2

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    Yeah,true:nod
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  12. pops

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    :thumb:D:D
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    Yeah, all three of yous can get rooted:lol3:lol3 I guess that was the response you were seeking:lol3
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  14. pops

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    :thumb:D
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    +1
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  16. 3legs

    3legs Real men ride sidecars

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    What, me fishing for a response from bloody Victorians. Never.:lol3:lol3:lol3

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  17. pops

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    Hi Mick how is your sidecar going ?
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  18. MIXR

    MIXR Been here awhile

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    I've done 8,000 kms on it Pops, and have it in the shed for a 10,000 km service. It's pretty much sorted as far as I can go with it. Fine for distance work, but I'm still playing with ways to get the wind off Kipper in the tub now that winter is coming. Hard to get that right without getting a specially made screen, so it's a matter of playing with vents and air deflectors.

    The service is a full set of adjustments and my helper is now in WA, so I'm taking it slow and easy. It's a bit harder to do some stuff by yourself, and I am going by the book and removing bits I normally don't touch for access or adjustment. And of course, if there is an inconvenient place to put a sidecar attachment that will get in the way, then that's where SRK put it! I almost need to build up a specialised set of 'BMW+sidecar' tools! I must have a dozen 10mm sockets and spanners, but still had to break out an unused 1/4-drive set of sockets and find a small 1/4-drive T-bar to get to the crash-bar bolts!

    Rear tyre wear is ok. I put a new rear Dunlop Trailmax on about 4,000 kms ago, and it still has another 3 or 4,000 kms left in it. Maybe! The rig did another fast 800 km trip a few weekend's back, and then a couple more hundred last weekend to get the oils hot enough to do a change. I could live with the tyre wear, but have been in contact with Stroker about his rear wheels. He's busy with work, but will get back to me soon with a shipping price. I have other options on that if necessary.

    The bike definitely works harder than when it was sans-sidecar. The oil is far darker out of the gearbox and engine than I'm used to seeing on both my R1150 bikes. More frequent changes are probably required. The second-hand rear drive is still holding up well. Bit of a surprise given its 100,000 km history before I put it in. My rebuilt original is in the shed gathering dust. I may need to get enthusiastic and swap them back over at some stage, but ...............

    I've had to run much more lean-out than I wanted, and have started to run out of adjustnment on some of the threaded clevis rods that SRK used. The bike is still fairly upright, but maybe one more turn will see it as good as it can get. I think SRK grossly underestimated how to set a GS up and used their 'roadbike' standards when making the attachment rods. I've now replaced all the attachment bolts to get the correct lengths (for safety), but still haven't obtained the 3 main upright bolts with drilled heads so that I can safety-wire them. I just check them often.

    Front head-shake still appears at very low speeds every now and then, but isn't an issue and I tend to ride through that. Steering is still not 'light', but I'm actually not concerned enough to do anything about it. It's hard work in the mountains, but I avoid them if I can! It probably needs a trail reducer, but I haven't done the hunting for that yet. I guess it shows that the steering is ok for me at the moment, but could be improved. Not a biggy.

    I have a run to Lightning Ridge coming up, and since it's a 1,500 km round trip and I'm doing it in a 24 hour day, I am contemplating doing it as an IBA run and making it a 1600/24. Probably a first for a sidecar and dog in Australia, if I do it that way.

    The build quality is still a problem with the outfit, but I've addressed most issues myself and have a few little things to do if (when) I remove the tub from the frame at some stage. 'Pi55-poor' as they say.

    Rear shock upgrade is excellent. Really happy with Laurie's work and really happy with the way the rig handles the back-roads and minor dirt roads. I need to change my on-board storage to soft bags as the hard plastic box tends to shake and rattle too much, but that's due to the light overall weight and shock-mounts between the tub and tub chassis. It still gets a strange wallow up when you hit dips. I guess that's due to each wheel hitting the dip at a different time.

    I had a scare with a car recently and had to do a full-on emergency stop when the driver failed to give way. The brakes worked, but you really have to watch how you apply them! It's more of an adjustment on the brakes by using front or rear or both or none, while steering and making steering adjustments as the suspension settles, all at the same time. Such fun!

    Other than all that, I'm still considering a trip to WA at some stage to visit a mate, but I have a few things going on here that might make it difficult to take a long break until later in the year, so it's not planned yet, other than the fact that I stare at a map of Australia every day and think about doing another lap!

    So yep - The rig is still running. I need to get this service done over the next weekend or so, and then get some more serious miles under the wheels.

    Cheers, Mick.
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  19. pops

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    Good news Mick .Great to hear you are getting some ride time in:clap.
    When i get back to riding again i will will be going the same way as you and get the rear shock done.

    I think i said before Mick the best thing we did to ours with the standard forks was to fit a trail reducer .
    It was unreal how much better it is to ride with it fitted.
    Made the bike a pleasure to ride all day ,even with strong side winds and twisty roads in the hills.
    The only downside was having to get a stronger front shock .

    The wallow you talked about .

    (Definition) To roll oneself about in a lazy, relaxed, or ungainly manner <pigs wallowing in the mud >
    Same on our gsa :1drink

    When we are doing a lot of dirt riding i back off the dampers on the 4 shocks .And reduce tyre pressures .It makes for a lot better ride on the corrugations, it lets the shocks work better (faster) in soaking up the bumps.
    But we do get more wallow.
    Then when we ride on the tar we have to adjust the dampers back up "harder" and it seems to stops most of the wallow.
    I know a sway bar will fix it, but i can live with it for now .

    Ride safe .
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  20. MIXR

    MIXR Been here awhile

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    Heading towards 10,000 kms with Goliath now, and the rear Dundlop Trailmax TR91 has 8,000 hard touring kilometres (5,000 miles) on it, and is about stuffed! This was fitted new, so I now know what life a rear tyre has. Not much!

    The front Trailmax is still running, but it was half worn when the chair got bolted on, so I think it's showing about 15,000 kilometres of wear. It's also ready for replacement, but I have another one with a few thousand left in it that I'll probably fit.

    The chair wheel doesn't seem to have much wear at all. The tyre was very second-hand when it went on, and still looks much the same.

    I definitely need a trail reducer if I want to take this beast into the tighter stuff. It's fine on the back-country roads and sweepers, but is a great muscle-builder once the corners get down to 55 kph and below.

    Anyway, I'm off to Lightning Ridge in a few weeks and may take the dirt roads home as the rig seems to be quite comfortable on the back tracks. It actually feels pretty good on dirt, so long as the corrugations aren't too bad as my hard storage box tends to rattle a lot. I may need to go to a soft padded bag arrangement for my on-board tools and spares.

    The second-hand rear drive I fitted is still holding together and the oil change last night was clean and metal-free. I guess that's a good sign. Overall, the rig seems to be working ok and holding together ok. Kipper is very happy with his accommodation!