Goodbye Garmin...

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by Brahma, Sep 18, 2013.

  1. genka

    genka SUV hater

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Oddometer:
    1,639
    Location:
    Baltimore, MD
    An Android phone has a high current charging mode, but it has to be activated by shorting the data pins in the USB cable. BurnsMoto may be rated at 100A, but if it doesn't have the pins shorted, the phone will only charge at 500mA. One way to deal with this is to make a custom cable with shorted pins. I rooted my phone, so I installed a ROM which allows to override the detection and turn the high current charging mode on manually. I have an USB outlet similar to BurnsMoto I bought from CycleNutz. It was advertised as 1A, but in reality never delivered more than 400mA. I bought a USB 5V converter from ebay. In high current mode I can run Navigation, screen at full brightness, music streaming, bluetooth and still charge the phone. I recommend Battery Monitor Widget (BMW :D ) to keep tabs on the charging state in the real time. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw.pro
    Car Home Ultra provides a nice large button UI useable while riding https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=spinninghead.carhome
    Also Icon Touchscreen compatible gloves make a huge difference.
    #21
  2. worwig

    worwig Long timer

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2009
    Oddometer:
    1,335
    Location:
    Hog Mountain
    Closer to 300ma I found on the S3 and S4. I believe that they do that for older USB 1.0 port compatibility.

    My S4 will actually pull a bit over 1 amp once the D+ and D- lines are shorted. It is very easy to short them with a tiny piece of foil in the USB plug. Problem solved, and the charge is fast even running the GPS with the screen at max.

    +1 on the Battery Monitor Widget. (BMW :huh )
    #22
  3. ohgood

    ohgood Long timer

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2010
    Oddometer:
    3,310
    Location:
    alabama
    oruxmaps (you need BRouter for OFFLINE routing from waypoints) has a great UI, and very easy to use routing setup. brouter is a little finicky to setup, but if you're used to the hoops basecamp requires, it's a cake walk.

    for you phone goobers that are ditching the high priced gps units, try these:

    sygic ( offline, onroad navigation )
    oruxmaps (offline OFF or ON road routing/navigation, planning, geocaching, photowaypoints, tracking, STATS AFTERWORDS, backtracking, and a few other things)
    osmand+ ( totally offline navigation )
    backcountryexplorer ( great for backpacking )
    google maps (caches map sections at 60 or so miles at a time)
    dualsportmaps (offline mapping, routing, tracking, etc)

    and while you're playing with them, think about what you WANT in the app's future, and tell the developer about it. they're very receptive, and make a living doing what you ask for, not to mention real people instead of a corporation.
    #23
  4. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2003
    Oddometer:
    6,320
    Location:
    47°50′15.8″N, 119°56′21.9″W
    If your point is that corporations do not listen to their customers I would disagree but since all of the products you've mentioned are
    incorporated businesses maybe there is another point you are making.
    #24
  5. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2003
    Oddometer:
    6,320
    Location:
    47°50′15.8″N, 119°56′21.9″W
    Or use Any Glove for Leather.
    #25
  6. worwig

    worwig Long timer

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2009
    Oddometer:
    1,335
    Location:
    Hog Mountain
    Or get a Samsung S4. It has a setting to raise the sensitivity and work with gloves. It can detect from almost 1/4 inch away.
    #26
  7. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2003
    Oddometer:
    6,320
    Location:
    47°50′15.8″N, 119°56′21.9″W
    Hate to burst your Samsung bubble but all Android OS's since 4.0 have a Display, Glove Mode, setting. It works if you have textile gloves or very think leather gloves but it is of no use in the rain -- you need something more, or skin.
    #27
  8. genka

    genka SUV hater

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Oddometer:
    1,639
    Location:
    Baltimore, MD
    I am on 4.1 and have no Glove Mode in the settings.
    #28
  9. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2003
    Oddometer:
    6,320
    Location:
    47°50′15.8″N, 119°56′21.9″W
    Then your cell phone provider chose not to implement it.
    #29
  10. genka

    genka SUV hater

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Oddometer:
    1,639
    Location:
    Baltimore, MD
    Google "Galaxy s3 glove mode" shows nothing.

    Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 4
    #30
  11. DCrider

    DCrider Live from THE Hill

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Oddometer:
    4,463
    Location:
    Washington, DC
    #31
  12. worwig

    worwig Long timer

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2009
    Oddometer:
    1,335
    Location:
    Hog Mountain
    Not there on the S3.
    #32
  13. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2003
    Oddometer:
    6,320
    Location:
    47°50′15.8″N, 119°56′21.9″W
    Looks like Samsung didn't believe in gloves until they wanted to make you think it was a big deal on their part.
    #33
  14. ohgood

    ohgood Long timer

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2010
    Oddometer:
    3,310
    Location:
    alabama
    It's OK to disagree.

    Try requesting a change in your gps software. Will it require "upgrading" to the next $450 model sometime next year, or will they just push out the feature for you in a zip in a week or so?
    #34
  15. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2003
    Oddometer:
    6,320
    Location:
    47°50′15.8″N, 119°56′21.9″W
    Well I've been using these things for a long time so I'll only go back four years but in that time I've had eight feature requests implemented to two Garmin devices (brands). None of those enhancements required me to spend money. I think that is rather good in the grand scheme of things.
    #35
  16. Thanantos

    Thanantos Ride hard.

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2008
    Oddometer:
    3,707
    Location:
    Michigan
    Wow, do you have a vendetta against Samsung or are all your posts just generally snarky?
    #36
  17. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2003
    Oddometer:
    6,320
    Location:
    47°50′15.8″N, 119°56′21.9″W
    Just an observation...
    #37
  18. genka

    genka SUV hater

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Oddometer:
    1,639
    Location:
    Baltimore, MD
    Looks like the "glove mode" is available on very few phones, and Samsung is one of them.
    #38
  19. genka

    genka SUV hater

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Oddometer:
    1,639
    Location:
    Baltimore, MD
    Garmin is constantly updating their software, but not all changes are good. In the past years they had been removing feature after feature in order to simplify things. Today I pulled my old cheap eTrex Legend handheld. It has 5 levels of map detail, Zumo has 3. Actually, Legend has 5 pages of different map display options. You can separately adjust font sizes and zoom levels, for streets, wypoints, etc, change colors, disable lock to the road and so on. Why the expensive motorcycle unit has none of these? The LCD screen in sunlight readable.You'd think past 10 years revolutionized display technology. Not for Garmin, they are still stuck in the past.
    #39
  20. BKMLWR

    BKMLWR Wondering around...

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2009
    Oddometer:
    4,748
    Location:
    North Carmel

    just don't walk under a tree....hardwood or softwood...
    #40