Google Maps Export, iPhone, Turn-by-Turn... Finally!

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by bdolnik, Mar 27, 2013.

  1. rpet

    rpet Awesometown

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    ^maps and stars definitely work for navigating. But do you want to spend your day navigating or spend it riding?

    If you want to stay on the gas all day, then waterproof, shockproof devices with onboard maps and bright, large, glove-compatible screens still have an edge.
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  2. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    Riding definitely! The crappy cellphone I'm a bag Velcrod to the dash meets all of those, even works upside down !
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  3. DammitDan

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    Well, with a couple of trips done on the Copilot app now, I have gotten rid of Navigon completely. Here's a few of the perks:

    1. You can drag the route around inside the app. It lets you move waypoints, create new stops, and save the new route without having to go back to the computer.
    2. It lets you "rank" different road types on a 5 point scale (from strongly avoid to strongly prefer)... You can set options for freeways, divided highways, primary, secondary and local roads. And it actually uses your rankings when calculating the route.
    3. It still only calculates the time to the next waypoint, so the only way to see the entire route is to leave navigation mode and go into the route editor. But it keeps track of where you are in the current trip, so you won't lose your place when you re-enable navigation mode.
    4. Runs in the background flawlessly, and offers customizable turn-by-turn (street names or just directions, and you can choose the distance(s) at which you receive alerts.)
    5. I haven't hit a maximum number of waypoints... I put half of my trip to CA in there (over 80 waypoints) and it calculated it just like it had been drawn on the computer.
    6. Let's you differentiate between waypoints and stops, so no more ananoying "approaching destination" alerts that Navigon would give me when I was reaching the upcoming waypoint.
    7. It was only $7.99!

    One bad point, though. It downloads maps in "regions", so not being able to choose individual state maps means the app is taking up 1.5GB of space on my iphone (but only because my trip is taking me across 16 states). With the perks it provides, I can live with that sacrifice.
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  4. Shunpiker Dan

    Shunpiker Dan Been here awhile

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    Sounds good. Do you use ITN Converter to prepare your route? If so, what file format do you save it in so it will open in CoPilot?
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  5. Shunpiker Dan

    Shunpiker Dan Been here awhile

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    I switched to CoPilot and glad I did. The biggest reason was to get away from the limit of 25 waypoints but I like CoPilot better all-round.

    One issue in case someone else comes across it: I had CoPilot setup to "reduce music during voice prompt" and found that it would not always return my music volume back to the level it was before the voice prompt. I changed that option to "mute during voice prompt" and it works perfectly (so far).
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  6. bdolnik

    bdolnik Been here awhile

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    Are you still using ITN? How did you end up getting the file into the iPhone for CoPilot to use?
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  7. _cy_

    _cy_ Long timer

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    it's been awhile since OP .. so how's it working out?
    compared to a std Garmin GPS?
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  8. DammitDan

    DammitDan n00b

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    I have a Mac, so I used RouteConverter and saved it as Copilot 9 (.trp). I used DiskAid to transfer to the iphone (and it uses wifi to transfer... No need to connect it to the computer).

    I also had the issue with the audio getting screwed up. I got around it by setting the app to not lower the music volume and only giving me one alert from one mile out.
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  9. Shunpiker Dan

    Shunpiker Dan Been here awhile

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    You can continue to use ITN and save it as CoPilot 8 (.trp). I didn't have any problems with that but I do like the RouteConverter also. You will need a different way to get the file into the iPhone as Dropbox doesn't seem to make the file association with CoPilot. I miss that functionality because I use Dropbox a lot for other things. Luckily I had iExplorer for other purposes and so I use that to import the file into the iPhone. Not as slick as using Dropbox because you have to connect the phone to the PC for the transfer but it works.
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  10. Erik-K75

    Erik-K75 Adventurer

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    So glad I found this topic, iPhone is such a blast. No really need for a external nav device.

    So i've got even a shorter version then @DammitDan

    Step 4 - Import:
    Open the TXT file you just created, it has a very long link in it. Send it to your email on your phone and open the link in Safari. Navigon will automatically open up with the route.

    Extra: When you calculate the route it gives the time and distance, then press the little icon in the right bottom corner and SAVE ROUTE.

    AWESOME :rofl
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  11. IronJackWhitton

    IronJackWhitton Chasing my Trunk to the next adventure

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    Seems that while this works, it's not exactly ideal.

    I used Navigon in the past and the iphone stopped working due to overheating. I dismissed that as being an issue of it being in the case and decided to try it again to see how it used custom route.

    I've been playing around with it and Navigon will randomly assign "finish" points along the route even if it's not finished -- this is me messing with some TCAT GPX files that I have to see if I can load the Alberta section.

    And the Copilot app for the iPhone won't let you load custom tracks set up on a desktop.

    Looks like a dedicated unit isn't quite out of the question yet, unless I'm doing something wrong?

    Anyone else have the heat issue?
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  12. guavadude

    guavadude Dirt Nap Enthusiast

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    I had the over heating issue. Decided I was better off keeping my phone as a phone and bought a Montana. I still use my phone to plan routes though and Navigon's Scenic Route option is great for generating route ideas.
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  13. IronJackWhitton

    IronJackWhitton Chasing my Trunk to the next adventure

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    Can you elaborate a bit on the conditions of the heat issue? For me it was using navigon, plugged into a charger, while in a pelican case on the bike handle bars. I'm curious if you had it when the phone was out of the sun.

    Do those with copilot have heat issues?

    I figured out how to get custom tracks into copilot and there are no errors with false finishes. You must use the program listed in the tutorial: I was using iexplore and the MA folder wasn't showing up.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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  14. leesagi

    leesagi Lee

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    Just as an F.Y.I...I use only my iPhone for navigation and never had any issues, in fact, I am convinced that it is serving me better then any GPS unit will be able too. I went on about 5 - 6 rides in the last few months of 2 - 3 days each, and never had any issues with navigation or the phone.
    (you can see my rides at tompino.com...and if you watch any of the videos, you'll see the phone mounted and used)
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  15. Shunpiker Dan

    Shunpiker Dan Been here awhile

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    I did not have any overheating issues when I used Navigon but it seemed that the Navigon app works the phone harder than CoPilot. I know my phone just manages to maintain the current charge level when using Navigon while being plugged in instead of banking any battery charge whereas my phone will charge up to 100% while using CoPilot. BTW: My iPhone 5 is mounted on the handlebars in a LifeProof Nuud case.
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  16. bdolnik

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    I'm on the TAT right now and am using copilot on the iPhone in conjunction with the roll charts. Have been doing 200 + miles per day running the iPhone in a pelican case with no overheating problems yet.
    Copilot is working very well, all the issues I've had have been user error.
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  17. bdolnik

    bdolnik Been here awhile

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    Here's my setup with the iPhone and roll charts. I'm very happy with the way it's all working.
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  18. Txrenegade

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    Anyone try this recently? I've gotten to the point where I have the file saved in my dropbox and it is adding ".route" to the end of my ".target" Dropbox doesn't recognize the file, as they said it would not, but opening the file in Navigon is not an option from Dropbox. Anyone got some pointers?
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  19. jeepster33

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    I had various results with importing from Dropbox into navigon. I have had the best luck saving file as a txt file, open it in notepad, copy the contents and paste into an email. Open email on your iPhone and click on the contents and navigon will open and import.



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  20. Txrenegade

    Txrenegade n00b

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    I tried your way just now also and I cannot get the email contents to be click-able so that opening it in Navigon is even an option. Any suggestions?
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