Google Maps to Basecamp Tracks/Routes for Dummies

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  1. guavadude

    guavadude Dirt Nap Enthusiast

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    the My Places apps shows a red route line from the route created in GM but it's not downloadable so it won't work offline which doesn't help.
    Spend some more time with Motion X. I think it will do everything you want.
    It has almost too many features but if you play with it you'll figure it out.
    Lots of great map options with different views, tracking and importing of routes as well as offline maps, and you can't beat the price.

    It will eat your battery though so keep that in mind.
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    guavadude, I found out some stuff last night that I hadn't known before...

    The Google Maps (the latest version, for iOS 6x) app on the iPhone doesn't allow you to view saved maps, at least not as far as I have been able to determine. Even though it allows you to log into your Google account. However, if instead of using the "app", you use Safari to navigate to maps.google.com, and log in there, you CAN view your saved maps and routes. Pretty cool.

    The problem I'm having with it though is that I keep getting a message that Google Maps does not have permission to use my location, and there's a "help" link to click on. When I do that, I get a page in French. (Don't know why, except that I live in Quebec.) It doesn't help either. And all my location services are ENABLED which is kinda strange. Can't figure that one out. SIGH
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  3. guavadude

    guavadude Dirt Nap Enthusiast

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    I have used the web version of Google maps but am consistently getting server errors and since you can't download maps I don't trust it very much. Seems like most places I end up don't have cell service or wifi.
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    Thanks guavadude for sharing all this, great.

    Some of the guys I go riding with uses iPhones but it is a big problem actually seeing anything on the screen with the glare etc.

    So, I am leaning towards a proper bike GPS but not sure if I should go with the Montana or Zumo.

    Any advice on this?

    Have read that the Montana can only handle 100 points compared to Zumo's 1000. Is that an issue for you when you plan the ride in Google and then convert to a route in Basecamp?

    Cheers
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  5. guavadude

    guavadude Dirt Nap Enthusiast

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    You're welcome! I started this thread so that I could remember how to do it. Now that I have the procedure down it's really fast. I enjoy mapping out great rides and Google maps are amazing. I only use Basecamp now to transfer routes and tracks to the Montana and to store the tracks I created on rides.

    I've never used the Zumos. The Montana is my first gps. For a long time I couldn't bring myself to spend $500 on a device that seems so dumb compared to a smart phone. I tried to use the iphone with Navigon and Motion X but finally decided to pull the trigger and I'm glad I did.

    I haven't had any issues hitting the limit on the Montana but I'd ask over on the Montana thread or call Garmin. I picked the 650 based on the articles Drtbyke Dan wrote at Globeriders.com and from other power users in the mega Montana thread. The AMPS mount is badass and the whole experience has been great especially when starting with Google maps.

    I'd like to get some sort of tablet for the road so I can create routes when traveling but so far I've been able to get it done with my iphone and the Montana. From what I know even if you hit the limit you can just split up the route into two halves or whatever. There are plenty of workarounds so I wouldn't let that hold you back!
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  6. IL adv

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    I'm new to this but was walking through the instructions on the fist post, very helpful! One question, I could do everything but when I transferred my gpx route into basecamp the smaller roads don't show up on the base camp map I have loaded. Actually I don't see the smaller roads at all on the base camp I have loaded on my PC. I'm sure its a simple answer but I'm not very savvy at this stuff yet... help?
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    You didn't mention what map you are using but you need CNNA 2013 on DVD to see the smaller roads. You could also get the free OSM map.


    If you already have that then look for the detail slider and turn that up
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  8. IL adv

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    How do I get those maps loaded onto my current basecamp. Do I have to get a DVD? One thing I didn't do yet was hook up my GPS to the computer with basecamp running. Will BC just pull the maps off my GPS? I have a BMW Nav IV.

    Thanks
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    Go ahead and plug your gps in and launch Basecamp to see what you get.
    If you use google to plan routes then you might already have all you need since I do believe BC will see the maps on your unit.
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    Ok. I have a new cord on the way from GPS city. That's why I haven't plugged it in yet but I will hook it up and try it out when I get it. The more I read about it, that should be all I need to do to be on my way. Thanks for all your help.
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    when you plug the unit in basecamp will "see" the map on the unit.I know this because i have a new(to me) nuvi and i dont have any maps installed on the laptop.When i plug in the gps i see the map on basecamp.
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  13. TuonoBiker

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    GuavaDude - Many thanks for posting this thread!!!! I was stoked to finally be able to plan my trips and put them into my BMW Navi IV. What a completely UNintuitive process!!

    I did find out that I could not turn the "Tracks" into a "Route" in basecamp. I had to take the.gpx file and import it to my Basecamp collection. Then when it had the "Tracks" created, I did a drag and drop to the BMW Navigator (that was already being recognized via USB cable.)

    Then, go on the Navigator and in Tools, there is a Import utility that will do the conversion from "Tracks" to a Route. Then it appears in your "Custom Routes" button in Tools.

    Very nice....loving it! This weekend coming up, wife and I will give it our epic voyage test. Our first camping road trip on the new '12 GSA...well, not so new anymore...its 9 months old....they grow up so quick. :cry
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    glad to help but not sure why you can't convert the track to a route in BC. Do you have the latest version? I'm on a mac but if you are on a PC I'd still imagine the command is there in the Edit menu.
    I just select the track and convert and then throw both on the Montana.

    As long as you found a work around it doesn't matter but having both tracks and routes gives you some options depending on if you want prompts for turns.
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  15. atlas cached

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    Convert Track to Route in BaseCamp.
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    I was receiving an error regarding the default number of waypoints, if I remember correctly. I found an article through Google from a forum with someone having the same issue. It might be Zumo 660 related...the person who posted the solution said he got it from garmin support. Also, he mentioned that the zumo unit itself would do a better job of coverting since it would use its own built in algorithms specifically for the zumo.

    Couldnt reach the site...blank
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    Oh, and yes, most up to date version it could find. Windows 7, 64bit.
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    It says:
    Convert Track to Route
    • Double-click a track.
    • Select the Properties tab.
    • Select Create Route.
    Note - this is an inmate (or Zumo Forums) member created web site - not Garmin.
    But there is a lot of good information there.

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    My compurter be tripping on me!
    A large number of FM roads in Texas have dropped their labels.
    Can someone please check this and lmk if it's a me thing or if it's some new Google map feature. I'm using Google classic maps, non terrain...although it doesn't seem to matter....just your basic map view.

    Please search for Forestburg, TX. All those yellow lines are major FM roads that used to have labels. Now regardless of zoom level they are left unnamed.

    This is making Apple Maps look good to me!
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