Google Maps to Basecamp Tracks/Routes for Dummies

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by guavadude, Feb 5, 2013.

  1. 73datsun

    73datsun Been here awhile

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    Ok Ceej, hoping you can save the day again. So I tested this method out a few weeks back. Worked FLAWLESSLY. I loved it.

    Now OF COURSE, when it's 72 hrs until my month long trip, something is borked.

    I did everything the same.

    Brought in my KML through Base Camp. Renamed all of the tracks (I did it by date). Highlighted those tracks, sent them to device via USB.

    Then went to MY DATA.

    Then IMPORT DATA.

    Then OFF ROAD TRACKS.

    Then selected JULY 3

    Then MANAGE TRIP LOG

    I select JULY 3rd. And it doesn't give me an option to route. It just displays "Show on Map" "Set Color" "Change Name"

    Where did I go wrong?




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  2. 73datsun

    73datsun Been here awhile

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    Well I may have sussed it out.

    I may have chose the incorrect trip logs. I went to MANAGE TRIP LOGS.

    I should have used TRIP LOGS -- within the IMPORT DATA menu.

    PHEW.

    :D
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  3. 1200gsceej

    1200gsceej Long timer

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    Glad you figured it out!
    Have a great trip.
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  4. sonoran

    sonoran you already know

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    Dammit Google why did you have to go and mess up a good thing???

    I have been using Google Maps to plan out multi-destination routes and use the mouse to change sections of the route based upon my preferences. Once complete I'd run gmaptogpx and it creates a .gpx file I could then edit, drag & drop into the GPX folder on my Montana and be ready to go. Very simple and effective.

    Recently Google has updated to a new version of maps and there is no more multi-destination routing, no adding of destinations by right clicking on the maps and worst of all gmaptogpx doesn't work with the new version.

    Google is keeping the old version (now called Classic Maps) around for the time being but that won't last forever.

    Does anyone know of a similar map-to-gpx utility for Bing Maps as an alternative to Google Classic maps?

    Thanks.
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  5. guavadude

    guavadude de-composer

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    I think the new Google maps is still in beta. Maybe it will have more functionality when it's complete. Maybe not.

    I finally got a reply from my report to google that damn near all the farm roads in Texas are missing labels. It only took six months and they replied "you're right."

    So now I see that they have put the labels back but it's a new format with little squares around the road numbers. The only problem is that they're using this same format for all the County Roads too which are much smaller than farm roads. These use to only show up when you zoomed in but now someone's driveway is labeled with just as much weight as a farm road. Awesome.
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  6. guavadude

    guavadude de-composer

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    Just an update...the latest version of Basecamp imports KML files so the gpxtokml.com steps aren't necessary anymore. Just save your KML files from google maps and import, then convert to a route if you want.
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  7. TuonoBiker

    TuonoBiker Been here awhile

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    This works well. I tested 3 weeks ago for my trip to the VA/NC/TN area. Worked great, in fact!

    Key thing for some guys just tuning in: TURN OFF AUTO-RECALCULATE!!! :D

    If you don't turn it off and you get off-track, it will recalculate to your destination and use its own preferred route. I turned mine to "PROMPT."
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  8. Wansfel

    Wansfel 50 yrs on 2 wheels

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    You have turn off the "avoid highway" under options to have the "save to my maps " appear. You can set up the route with the avoid on and then when ready to save turn it off, select "get directions " again (won't change the route) then the "save to my maps" reappears.
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  9. Aanarchy

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    Great thread, and I've used this info with great success. However, some issues:

    1. I use a lot of "Add a Destination" points. Each one of these becomes a Waypoint in Mapsource and denotes the end of a track. So I end up having to use the Join Track Tool to get one continuous track. Is there an alternative, other than “Dragging” the route where I want it to go? Using Add a Destination seems so much easier.
    2. I just did a route with 13 Google Maps points. It truncated the .XML file. Left off the last, homeward leg.
    3. Once the route is saved to My Maps, how can I recall it to the standard Google Maps page with continuous Turn by Turns? There is no way to print the entire route out of My Maps. That I can find.

    BTW, IMHO the "New" Google Maps sux. Hard to use, not intuitive, ands appears to be lacking some functionality of the Classic version. Maybe I haven't worked with it enough.
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  10. guavadude

    guavadude de-composer

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    I only use the beginning and end points, getting directions and then drag to the route I want. Not sure how to help but if you do this you can easily add several points to lock down the dragging as you build the route. Maybe try it this way instead of multiple destination points which are obviously confusing the Garmin app.
    Also have you tried Basecamp instead of Mapsource? I always break my multi-day routes into different days and often different sections depending on what I'm doing.

    Please post back if you figure it out. And yeah, the new google maps sucks. Now instead of a My Maps list containing my saved routes, it saves every single search for me so the list is a mess. I've written to them asking to divide saved routes separate from searches, so I'm pretty sure they'll just delete the route saving option and will only let me see recent searches in the name of progress!


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  11. Wansfel

    Wansfel 50 yrs on 2 wheels

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    Never been happy with MY MAPS in Google Maps either. I set up a route, usually by day, then save it by the "Link" button (recent example). saving the short URL and copying it to a text file document along with accompanying explanation. I can then imbed the link in a report, email, etc.

    When I do load to My Places to save and convert for Base Camp, it isn't to bad to recombine and I usually also dissect the routes or tracks (especially routes) to smaller, more manageable size also that fit my daily program. Final product is the Base Camp close up review and add gas, food, rally points, other critical waypoints - especially for group distribution - all in one GPX file.
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  12. falcofred

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  13. Wansfel

    Wansfel 50 yrs on 2 wheels

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    Unselect the avoid tolls and highways boxes. Hit the get directions box (shouldn't recalc route). Then at the bottom of the left window frame should show the "save to my maps" link should show up. Save as a new map. Select KML and save where ever. BC will import a kml file.

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  14. falcofred

    falcofred aka Beer Scout

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    Thanks, got it loaded.
    I'm trying to create routes for an upcoming trip to Nova Scotia
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  15. Davidprej

    Davidprej Davidprej

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    "With your renamed track highlighted in the list, under Basecamp's EDIT menu, use the "Create Route From Track" command."

    Things were going well until this step. I have no "Create Route from Track" under Edit or if I right-click.
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  16. Wansfel

    Wansfel 50 yrs on 2 wheels

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    Third way - "open" the track and in the window showing the track data should have the command at the bottom of the window.
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  17. Davidprej

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    Sorry, but the words above are gibberish to me. "Track data should have the command at the bottom of the window"? I have no idea what you could possibly mean by those words.
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  18. advNZer?

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    What devices/software /versions are you using?
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  19. Davidprej

    Davidprej Davidprej

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    I'm using Basecamp 4.2.5. My device (by which I assume you mean my GPS device) is a Nuvi 2455 which i understand is not capable of downloading custom routes from Basecamp.

    All I"m trying to do is plan a route from point A to point B, but I want to choose the roads I take. I don't want to be tied to the default routes.

    I am flabbergasted that this is not possible. Sure some say it is, but they are experts in workarounds. This should be a slam-dunk as far as routing software is concerned, but it is not.
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  20. advNZer?

    advNZer? Long timer

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    What about the computer,windows or apple.some nivis will let you plan the route on the gps itself.google maps will send one point at a time to the gps via a little garmin plug in