Google Maps to gps??

Discussion in 'GPS 101 - Which GPS For Me' started by TinyBear, May 22, 2010.

  1. kamikazekyle

    kamikazekyle Been here awhile

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    I think it depends on the iPhone version as well as if you have any anti-glare screen protectors or what case you have on the phone, if any. Using a 4S with the lifeproof case and no screen protector (aside from the glossy front on the Lifeproof), it's usable to me in nearly all lighting conditions. Glare does get in the way from time to time, which makes me wish I could find a polarized visor. I don't like wearing glasses underneath my helmet, so for the moment stick with tinted visors during the day.

    Anyway, one thing to keep in mind is that while you can save a Google Map as a KML file, you can't really directly import it into Basecamp. Basecamp does support KML files, but support is kinda limited. If I have a saved Google Map I first save to KML, load the KML file in Tyre and preview/alter the waypoints as needed, then save as a GPX file. This resulting file will import directly into Basecamp as a route (via the waypoints) and as a track (the actual Google Maps line), plus all the waypoints. I usually delete the track for on-road riding and rely on the GPS unit to calculate the route using the route portion of the file.

    You'll probably need to do some tweaking on more complex routes unless you convert the track to a route. Google's route calculation can vary GREATLY from Basecamp's route calculation, which can vary from your GPS's calculation. If you need as much accuracy as you can get, again either convert the track or preview the route in your intended GPS unit before the trip.
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  2. lhendrik

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    Yes, works fine with both loaded. I have both on an Asus Windows Netbook. They both read the same City Navigator Map files installed.
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  4. JRWooden

    JRWooden Long timer

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    IS IT TRUE that matter HOW the route gets placed in the GPS, if the GPS does a re-calc if I you go off route - by missing a turn or whatever, you could end up with a route different from what you started with that would be constrained only by the waypoints ... and if they are far apart you are hosed?

    I've loaded BaseCamp ... and to me at least ... sigh ... it is not nearly as clever or intuitive to use as I would like and the maps kinda suck compared to Google Maps...


    The Google Maps (add tweaks/waypoints) --> Tyre --> BaseCamp (add MORE tweaks/waypoints)

    seems a bit tedious...

    Is the Harley Web App really pretty good ... and goes direct to GPS?
    Are there any other web apps to look at?

    Thanks!

    Edit:
    Ok I just messed around with the HD app... I have to say it works pretty darn well.
    You can add waypoints to help keep you on track, and the interface is much like using google maps.
    Only one issue that I have found:
    I added some intermediate DESTINATIONS along with some waypoints, and when I exported the "single" route to the Garmin,
    it came in with a separatate data file for each pair of destinations, so ... that's not good ... I was using destinations as they could be named,
    where as it does not appear that the waypoints can be named ... but still it's pretty sweet...
    When you export to a Garmin it
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  5. JRWooden

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    Ok ... I've messed around some more with the HD Ride planner I like it!
    Map quality and interface is very much like Google maps.
    Only "quirk" to my minds is that if you plan a trip with multiple destinations you get multiple routes.
    All intermediate points need to be waypoints not destinations, but the interface makes it easy to change points from one to the other............

    Related, but slightly off topic question if anyone knows the answer really quickly:

    I think this may be a bug in BaseCamp ...
    In the past when I would send a route to my GPS I would go to "My Data"
    then select the route from "Import Route from File" function and import it.
    Once it was imported it no longer showed up in the list of routes available to import from "My data" ...
    Well that's not working any longer ... routes I have imported (or have decided I never want to import)
    seem to be stuck in the my data folder..............
    Is there a quick fix?

    Thanks!
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  6. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    BaseCamp does not dictate how to send data to your Garmin GPS - the GPS makes that determination. BaseCamp only determines what model of GPS you have and sends data according to the specs for that model. If anything changed it is do to the software on your GPS or that you are sending data to the external storage card vs. internal storage.

    Cheers,
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  7. JRWooden

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    Thanks Dan!
    I have not chanced anything on my GPS hmmmmmmmmmmm ....
    except that I recently downloaded the newest map set....
    (no SD card ever installed) ...

    I'm scratching my head, but going to ignore it till I get back from the trip I'm headed out in tormorrow...
    I did find this thread on the Garmin forum that might lead me to believe that BC had something to do with it...
    not sure... https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?t=25635
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  8. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    The nuvi's that still use MTP & USB mode tend to be a bit screwy compared to the newer USB devices. If you can't delete your temp.gpx file along with your current.gpx file before loading new data you will most likely continue to have the condition you describe.

    I don't use Windows BaseCamp much and I don't have a nuvi 550 any more soooo, I'm out of my league on this one. :norton

    Cheers,
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  9. JRWooden

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    Thanks ... when I get back I'll try deleting the temp/current GPX files ...
    I've got everything loaded for this trip and don't want to futz it up now!
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  10. cormacpara

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    So Ive recently acquired a 220 with a 2gb sdhc card that has the 2013 maps and it has 2010 installed.

    I've tried every way possible to create a track on basecamp (using mac AND windows) and cannot for the life of me get it to upload it to the device. I've used the "send to device", I've dragged and dropped within basecamp AND dragged it on the folder from the root menu.

    Any suggestions? I initially wanted to upload a google map but that seems impossible so I just want to create a simpler one and upload it! GRRRRR!!

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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  11. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Boy is this in the wrong place!

    Not sure what your problems are since thousands of folks do those things every day. But, let's see if we can't get you headed in the right direction.

    First, you don't want that µSD Card w/CNNA in the zumo(?) 220 as it will conflict with the factory installed CNNA. After you remove the µSD CNNA try attaching your zumo to your computer again. If you continue to have problems, try using JAVAWA GMTK to analyze your GPS to see if you have bad data on it.

    If none of those things work for you I'd contact Garmin Product Support (by phone).

    As for getting Google Maps route/waypoint data into your GPS, just create your Google map and export it to KML. Then open BaseCamp and Import that KML file. You now have your waypoints and the Google route (TRACK) in BaseCamp which can be transferred to your GPS (assuming the above works out).
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  12. JRWooden

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    Here's how I've ended up:

    MSST - Microsoft Streets and Trips the 2013 version is about $25 bucks on Amazon, and is pretty powerful... I have not mastered it yet, but for plotting routes it is pretty straight-forward....

    MSST will export a route as a GPX file

    Next you plug your Garmin GPS into computer and find the folder: X:\Garmin\GPX


    Copy the exported GPX file to this folder
    (no need to run it through any program to strip out extra data - at least in my experience...)


    Then “safely remove” the GPS from computer,



    then unplug the GPS’s USB cable and wait for reboot


    Go to: Tools --> My data --> Import routes and then select it

    have at it………….

    It's been working well on my current trip!
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