GoPro HD Hero Camera

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by Wesley J, Dec 23, 2009.

  1. bemiiten

    bemiiten League of Adventures

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    I wanted to buy the original GOPRO , but found out a HD version was in the works, so I waited. Now I'm all set to pull the trigger but see they are going to offer a remote control & wireless mic option in the near future. Still waiting to find out if the current HD version is going to be compatible.
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  2. erda

    erda Been here awhile

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    Guessing it would be Cross Iron @ Balzac.
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  3. Wesley J

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    It's actually spelled Ball-sack :wink:

    Yup, thats the one.
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  4. CodeMonkee

    CodeMonkee Geek Adventurer

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    Nice, but I can see artifacts in the video. If you look closely at the vid in full screen mode, about halfway up the frame, you can see a band several hundred pixels high (or so) moving up and down slightly. I have seen two explanations for this; one is the memory card not being fast enough, another is the engine electronics interfering with the cam. I am betting from your mounting near the engine that it was the electronics - there is nothing like 60 to 120KV firing at 5K RPM to interfere with solid state electronics.
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  5. TheMan

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    In my first 24hrs I scratched my HD's lense when the RC car it was mounted on flipped on tarmac. For the 20th time :shog .

    I'm not well-experienced in video cams, but I will say I'm very pleased with my Hero HD's results. But I'm just pointing and shooting w.little demand beyond attaching to things and recording.
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  6. Gramp-Z

    Gramp-Z Been here awhile

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    I have the non-hd version and used one of the flat mounts to screw to an arm i built that screws to the top of my clutch master cyclinder . Have it a little ways behind my windshield , but with wide angle of camera , the edge of windshield is on outside corner of picture . Camera is just above my mirror , slightly ahead , so it is easy to get to the top button . I use it on my street bike , and it has been pretty good . Bright sunlight is best , been looking for some software to edit the lighting to see if i can lighten pictures / video without losing to much . I actually use mine in 3 shot mode often , beats the heck out of trying to dig out regular camera . Even the lithium batterys lose the juice fairly quickly when riding in cooler temps . Tip , keep a second set of batterys in shirt pocket , ready for a quick change out . Don't know what the wind chill to batterys was on a little 156 mile ride on the 28th , temp was between 30 -36 , running around 60-80 mph . Lithium made it half way , rechargables did the rest . Have fun , highly recommend the 3 shot mode , standard camera will take about 1,600 pics on 2 gig card .
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  7. munchmeister

    munchmeister Grow'd Up Mini Trail

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    Yo. GrampZ. Every get pics like this? Late afternoon so light was not the best but the CMOS rolling shutter of my GoPro non HD, non wide 5mp gave me these when I had it in 'pic every 2 secs' mode. I'm posting this one as it has the greatest number of vertical and straight lines, showing the effects of the CMOS rolling shutter. Check that contrail in the sky ! and the telephone poles:eek1

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  8. Wesley J

    Wesley J Hoser

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    Definitely due to vibration. I've been searching for an inexpensive anti-vibration mount. Anyone have any ideas? So far I've only found a RC chopper mount...

    Wes
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  9. munchmeister

    munchmeister Grow'd Up Mini Trail

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    I'm thinking the only way to isolate the vibrations enough for the GoPro I've got is to use a RAM plate of some sort and lay some gel pad or the right kind of foam pad on the plate, then find a way to mount the camera so it kinda "floats" on top of the foam. Maybe just use some bailing wire and one of these. Just add a chunk of neoprene on top of the plate.

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  10. Gramp-Z

    Gramp-Z Been here awhile

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    Wow , that looks wild ! No , I guess my 83' Sabre is a little too smooth . I made a little error when changing fork oil , and was taking some video on I-90 at Snowqualmie Pass (typical pass , rough ), when i looked at the video , it was somewhat shaky , but the audio was terrible ! Lets see if I can load a pic of my mount . I'm a noob at all of this , just signed up for Smugmug . Ran out of time , resizing , will try again later , if i have the time . Also , kind of like the effect , the wide angle distortion has , looks like your moving way faster than you are , "sucking trees into your vortex ! LOL
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  11. RichardU

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    Vibration is the biggest challenge for these cameras. I have experimented with mounting the camera in various locations:
    • Handlebars had so much vibration it was unwatchable.
    • Helmet was better, but still not ideal, plus all the problems of the picture moving every time I check my rear view mirrors, etc.
    • Mounted to my skid plate / frame is mostly stable image, although the front wheel is always in the picture, and there are artifacts.
    • The chest mount is the most stable image, but the mirrors get in the picture. Wouldn't work on a bike with windscreen.
    I have also tried various foams. The camera doesn't weigh enough to compress neoprene. Softer foams can actually increase vibration.

    There is a difference between vibration and shock. My GPS is mounted on a Touratech mount with rubber boots to reduce shock. But it still vibrates a lot.

    There is a reason why most mid to high-end videocameras have image stabilization. And there is also a reason why professional vehicle-based cameras are stabilized with gyroscopes.

    The other solution for video is to fix it in post. A variety of editing programs will apply image stabilization after the fact.
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  12. FakeName

    FakeName Wile E Coyote SuperGenius

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    Yes, it's easy to isolate cameras from vibration, pros have been doing it for years. All you need is one of these:

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    Might be a little difficult to mount on a helmet, but it's the only way. And attachment to a vibrating and rapidly moving object will result in a vibrating and rapidly moving image.

    It's a limitation of the media.
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  13. CodeMonkee

    CodeMonkee Geek Adventurer

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    IMO the best vids I have seen for cams are on Vimeo - they don't seem to sample down the resolution as bad as any other hosts - although YouTube recently went up to 1080p.

    This is a demo I found on Vimeo:

    http://vimeo.com/7996230
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  14. greenthumb

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    I would suggest trying to make whats known as a 'steady cam' in miniature. if you look at an f800 brake resevior, it is basically the same principal. it consists of a counterweight and the fixed point being between the cam and the weight.
    heres a professional and homemade example. much bigger, but scale it down and it should work.

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  15. FakeName

    FakeName Wile E Coyote SuperGenius

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    Sure, it will work great. As long as you hold it verrrry steady as you are riding. :rofl
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  16. Wesley J

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    Ok bitches. Cropping a short 1080p clip in its native form for download.

    Any suggestions on a location to upload?

    Wes
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  17. tokenboy

    tokenboy Gnirly Adventurer

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    vimeo
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  18. Wesley J

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  19. Wesley J

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    No transcoding allowed. Vimeo transcodes everything, i want to let people dl a file just how it looks. I'll put it up on my website I guess. I think I have unlimited bandwidth but it's relatively slow.

    Wes
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  20. Wesley J

    Wesley J Hoser

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    Here's a short video including a 3rd gear wheely at 80 kmh, a crash and a donut or 2..... Colors are a bit muted as the lens is dirty from spray from cars.

    Please right click and save as

    Video

    If its brutally slow and someone wants to put it somewhere else for dl, feel free.

    Wesley J
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