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Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by Jungle Jim, Jan 22, 2007.
The strap is aces. Nothing cheap about it, 'cept the price.
So, I decided that I needed to wear a watch this weekend, I have one in working order - the Seiko 6105-8110 that I carry on about.
Its s/n is 585018 if that will help any one work out a date of manufacture.
but first some history....
My uncle brought it in Hong Kong some time between 1975 and 1978 when he as posted there with the Army. Coincidentally, my father was posted there at similar time and that is where I was born in 1976. No I am not Chineese!
Anyway, years later working in Zimbabwe with my Uncle he gave it to me as it had got water in it and he didn't wear it any more.
I took the back of (with a pair of Snap On duck bill pliers) had a look, saw that the pendulum thing went round and then replaced the back.
I eventually took it back to the UK, got it serviced at the local jewlery store and it became a daily wear watch. (yeah I was stoked - 19 and sporting this classic Seiko) I didnt like the rubber type strap that came with it, I dont think I have that any more, got a metal one that looked good but isn't strong enough for it, its twisted. A pin in the strap broke and its got some 0.024" lock wire holding it together. Only the second clasp on the strap holds it closed, its a bit tired shall we say.
Anyway, after a few years it wasn't doing so well so I stopped wearing it and wore a cheap ass but look good watch. it told the time and was ok.
As of now, I haven't worn a watch regularly for 6 years. When I travel I do because I like to know the time, but at work, there are time pieces all round us (telephone, computer, car, moto, some one else). Its also hot and sweaty where I live.
Anyway, I got it out last night, gave it shake, wore it for a while (man you notice the difference in weight when wearing a watch)
At 23:00 I zeroed it against my computer.
At 23:06 this evening I stopped it. (Yeah I missed the time)
In that period it had lost 1min and 43 seconds (103 seconds) that is a loss of 0.12%
Now consider that this watch has NEVER had a proper service, in the last 20 years has been worn less than it has. Has been in a box of stuff for the last 8 years maybe more, I think that's pretty good.
It needs a clean and a new more appropriate strap but it tells a story.
A beautiful and classic Seiko. Great story, too.
Tis pretty easy to get a good, recent make bracelet for that Seiko, if you want to.
Here's mine... Suunto X-Lander Military. No real story. Just liked it. Served me well for a couple of years so far.
I think I would like to try one of the Suuntos, I go back and forth on styles, started out with my first nice watch was an electronic, then tuning fork, then mechanical, then quartz, now back to mechanical but I still think quartz is the ruggedest around. Cheap to repair and accurate.
Today was Oris, bought back in 98 or 99, about $220 at the time so far from one that impresses people, still, I have been impressed with it. Tomorrow will be diver day.
That one deserves a good refurb. Nice watch.
What's the scoop on Jacques Lemans watches? The ones in the recent post are pretty cool.
AFAIK, Jacques LeMans is yet another far East (China) wristwatch maker, along the lines of Swiss Legend, Lucien Piccard, Stuhrling Original, etc., that grabbed a name that smacks of Continental cachet, gets designs from the U.S. and Europe, and sends wristwatches of moderate quality around the world.
I think they are actually an "Austrian" boutique brand, i.e. some office in Austria with the watches made god knows where. They might want to piggy back on a perceived closeness to Switzerland.
My SKX781 Orange Monster should be here Saturday.
I had a friend who toured some machine facility's in China, Taiwan and South Korea about 1o years ago. After many years in the jewelry biz he left wondering exactly who makes watch cases where and for who. He said there was some serious machinery being used in the making of watch cases. And those watch cases looked to be from some big name makers.
Looking back now, it could have been he was seeing the start of the counterfiet watch biz, or some of the big boys could have been cutting corners.
cutting costs. that's not synonymous with cutting corners.
I know thaht fab outfits in Taiwan can hit tolerance whatever tolerance specifications you shoot at 'em...top notch QA...particularly when it comes to case fab, which is not a particularly challenging area of fabrication.
True, but when I pay for a swiss watch, I aint looking for a watch where all the parts except the movement were made in Asia by people making $2 a day.
As for China, from people I have talked to who worked at moving production to China as long as your inspector was looking over their shoulder they did exactly what was required under contract, when your inspector left they had no issues substituting their own grades of steel while your steel that you supplied walked out the door. They treated fucking you over as a game. When they were caught a few people were fired and six months later were back on site.
I would not doubt that for a second. But saying that your take on Chinese fabrication is the same as your take on Taiwanese fabrication is like saying you think a swiss watch is the same as a swedish watch.
I dont think they are the same, and didnt make myself clear. He saw different things at each place, in China they were pumping out watch cases and were tight lipped when asked about them. He didnt say what he saw in Korea or Taiwan or if he did I dont remember.
Bought one in the PX at Ft. Bragg in about 1980. Loved that watch and gave it to my best dive buddy in about 1993...he almost cried. He had always wanted one and knew what that watch meant to me. It had been on my wrist thru my entire Army career and thru all me SFQC training.
Agree. Used a 20mm version with an old SMP. Just ordered the 22 for my SBGE001.
Some simple sleuthing on the net works a manufacture date of August 1975.