GPS POINTS MILITARY ROADS (SUSA, ITALY into FRANCE)

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  1. Heloguy1976

    Heloguy1976 Adventurer

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    A friend and I will be traveling from Susa Italy on the old military roads between Italy and France. Was wondering if anyone had some GPS tracks they could send our way or even any info on what is a must to see and what can be skipped. We have heard Susa Italy is a great little town with all kinds of info and they go out of there way to help you plan the passes. We will be traveling on 1200 GSA's and have 10 - 15 days of travel time. We are both very seasoned off-road riders. Any information would be awesome. We have found lots on the net but always better from people that have done it. Thanks
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  2. fluff34567

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    hi,
    we are also going end of july and have spoken with the bardonecchia commune to clarify exactly which roads are opena nd which are not because i have found a lot of mixed info.

    remember that nearly every military road that goes from italy to france are closed

    you also may have heard the story of the guys that were caught on a closed road, the police took their bikes away with a helicopter and the guys had to walk back to the village for several hours and pay a huge fine..... :huh:eek1:eek1

    make 100% sure the roads you are going on are allowed as the signs are not always there to say the roads are closed - you just have to know!!

    best to phone the commune or tourist info and they will give you the correct info - it will be safer!!
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  3. Yeti.at

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    i already drove some of these roads. of some i stored the gps-coordinates. if you need it, let me know it.
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  5. atreiou

    atreiou XR 650R Rider

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    Hi, I have various offroad gps track around Bardonecchia, near Susa
    You can reach with motorbikes roads at about 3.000 mt of altitude

    I will be there on 13 and 14 of april 2014

    If I can help you, let me know
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  8. fluff34567

    fluff34567 Long timer

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    You know that in April all
    the dirt roads will be closed, you can only travel the roads around end of july- mid August.




    The susa and bardo communes are very helpful as are the police who advise routes and have in the padt given us special permission to ride "closed" routes.

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  10. fluff34567

    fluff34567 Long timer

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    Im not telepathic so you need to write something to explain your point. :)

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  11. K44rll

    K44rll Been here awhile

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    Just showing some examples of the dirt road opening dates as you rightly posted are not always open :thumb:

    Karl
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  12. fluff34567

    fluff34567 Long timer

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    Got you :thumbup: in april I would still be thinking of snow also. The passes wont be passable :D

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  13. AriWiedaetschi

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    I made Journeys in this Area every Year.
    Last Year we have some problems with closed Roads. The wintersnow was not gone in June.
    All the highmountain roads are not passabel.
    Another obstacle is the tour de france.

    You wont belive, how many roads are closed when the Tour de France have to pass.

    Here my GPS routs from 2012
    The links opens a google like map
    and you can export the route in the type you need.





    Vogesen Ca. 400 km

    http://www.motoplaner.de/#49.48387,...6,6.92413,47.82828,6.8373,47.76253,6.82202&&1



    Teil 2 Vogesen bis Aostatal 370km

    http://www.motoplaner.de/#47.63981,...3,7.18683,45.85138,7.15584,45.81769,7.2351&&1



    Teil 3 Aoste bis vor Briancon /Cesano Torinese 300

    eventuel kleine Offroad Fahrt um den Lac Mont Cenis als Vorbereitung für den Finestre
    Finestre Richtung Cesano Torinese ab Susa umfahrbar!
    Ende Finestre auf Assietta Kammstraße Richtung Sestriere Umfahrung parallel möglich siehe Karte

    http://www.motoplaner.de/#45.735,7....5,6.8817,44.95049,6.86091,44.95305,6.79375&&0


    Teil 4

    Vor Briancon muss nun das Wetter entscheiden ob über den Col d Agnel Maira Vrata Stura Kammstraßen oder eher Rückmarsch Richtung Grenobel
    Alternativ wären noch die Runde Col Agnel- Col di Sampeyre (Maira Stura Asphalt mit schönen Überhängen) Borgo- Col de la Lombarde- Isola Col dela Bonette Col de Vars denkbar.

    Achtung!! Die Maira Runde führt vermutlich zum Verzicht auf Teil 6 bei der Rückreise, da nur 8 Tage zur Verfügung stehen.

    Teil 4 I Varaita Maira Stura

    Teil 4 II Richtung Westen 340 km
    http://www.motoplaner.de/#44.95305,...,5.94867,44.82713,5.62371,44.75039,5.37128&&0



    Teil 5 Vercors Nord 33 abgekürzt und dann nach Grenobel (vermutlich muss ein Teil doppelt gefahren werden vorzugsweise (Grands Goulettes) 360km
    Grenobel bis Chambery Runde 32 West (Abstecher Skigebiet östlich Grenoble + Fort du St-Eynard)

    http://www.motoplaner.de/#44.75836,...,5.83383,45.50725,5.92406,45.54473,5.91958&&0





    Teil 6 Stausee von Roseland
    Vorsicht da ist noch der falsche Zielort Flumet drin!!!!!
    Schotterpiste über den Cormet des Arches umfahrbar bei schlechtem Wetter über Straße gemäß Tour 28

    http://www.motoplaner.de/#45.56472,...,6.64151,45.77674,6.52691,45.81933,6.51623&&1


    Teil 7 Aravis Kette Höhenweg geschottert Umfahrung möglich. Runde 27
    Start zum Rückweg über die Vogesen oder Autobahn.
    Das Jura sollte heute noch durchquert werden



    Start in Ugine
    bis Colle L Arpettaz Asphalt dann Schotter
    Umgehung über Hauteville Richtung Fulmet möglich.
    Teil 7 I Schotter ca 40 km

    http://www.motoplaner.de/#45.74914,...9,6.43624,45.83582,6.46123,45.87208,6.4652&&0


    Teil 7 I Straße
    http://www.motoplaner.de/#45.74914,...4,6.45558,45.82639,6.51006,45.87208,6.4652&&0

    Teil 7 II Col Aravis bis Bussang 340km
    http://www.motoplaner.de/#45.87211,...76,6.5712,47.72547,6.7614,47.87589,6.85565&&1
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  14. AriWiedaetschi

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    I will travel in this area first week in July


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