GPS & Tennessee Portion of Transamerica Trail

Discussion in 'GPS Tracks - Northeast, Southeast & Florida' started by 4RunnerFever, Apr 17, 2007.

  1. 4RunnerFever

    4RunnerFever Intercontinental

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    Hi Everyone,
    I am doing the Tennessee portion of the trans-am trail and hope that someone can hook me up with a GPS file of that section.

    I've got the roll charts and maps, but there are so many turns in TN that loading them all into the computer is becoming quite time consuming - anybody willing to help me out?? :D
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  2. dirty_sanchez

    dirty_sanchez Dirty_Sanchez

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    I'd say quicherbichin, nut-up and do it.

    Even with all of the turns, flipping of map pages, and tedium, mapping the whole of AR (4XX miles worth) in City Navigator took all of 45 minutes.

    Working up a GPS route for TN couldn't take all that long.

    Dirty
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  3. 4RunnerFever

    4RunnerFever Intercontinental

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    :nod
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  4. dirtdidler

    dirtdidler Been here awhile

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    I think if you have bought the maps from Sam and gave him his props, sharing tracks is perfectly fine, after all this is what the forum is about. If you have'nt done the trail and are speaking out your ass, then no comment is really needed. In no way should any waypoints be posted publicly, only to people that have bought the maps and can prove it.
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  5. Buddy

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    I was hoping someone would have a positive comment on this one. We ended up spending hours entering those damn waypoints. FYI there are a ton of turns in TN. :evil It was worth every second but I could have been fixing all the stuff I broke the day before on my bike rather than doing that.

    I understand how this is touchy since nobody wants Sam getting screwed out of all of his hard work but as long as you have purchsed the maps (why not, they are a deal) then help a brotha out and share. I can't imagine how much work went into getting these routes setup, it was an amazing trip. I was sad to turn off of the trail and head for home.
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  6. spinninmywheels

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    I agree with the gps thing instead of using the roll charts which came with the maps. I have been working on this for a week a little at a time so that this summer me and several of my friends are going to ride the TN portion. (As far as someone thinking that everyone out there sharing info is trying to rip someone off, the first intersection is 5.19 miles, then the next is 12.54, the next is 28.36 and so on.) I am working to put this on my 276c with City Navigator. When I get finished I don't mind sharing the information and if someone else finishes before me I would love the assistance.

    Marty

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  7. Buddy

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    My information is from a Garmin 2610. If that would do you any good and can swear on your left turn signal that you have bought the stuff from Sam then I would be happy to share.
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  8. Buddy

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  9. wvonkessler

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    I did Tennessee in a car. Way too much asphalt. Look for a TSD rally coming up out of Dayton, Tennessee, that uses all the dirt roads known to me in East Tennessee between I-40 and I-24 outside of the Cherokee National Forest. Probably will post in the Racing forum.

    Regards,

    Wilson
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  10. spinninmywheels

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  11. SuperBonBon

    SuperBonBon Been here awhile

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    Well, I've definitely bought the maps from Sam and I'll definitely gave him props (and my money) for creating them!

    That being said, I've also just spent over of 40 hours transferring ALL his map information from paper to GPS. Nevada alone took over 10 hours (I used the US Topo software for it, zoomed in to 0.2 mile scale to create them by hand) I have them each by individual state and compounded into an entire TAT route. Just so you know, the hand-created Nevada and Utah sections REALLY bog down your computer due to the sheer amount of waypoints in them. Of course, the entire TAT GPS file includes all that information in addition to the rest of the States, so it goes slower still....:cry

    As far as Tenesse goes, I entered each GPS waypoint listed on the rollcharts individually and created a route that way. I found that the route that Mapsource created sometimes went by "highway" instead of the intended back roads on Sam's maps - and that many waypoints were just slightly off the intended intersections (at least by Mapsource's reckoning). So, I redid Tennessee, and cleaned things up.
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  12. touche

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    My 2 cents on this...

    I spent so many hours entering the roll charts in MapSource... too many hours I'de say.

    Sam did a great job, by documenting the TAT, and what he sells is a great added value for those looking forward to do it.

    But this is it... I don't agree whith this so called "solidarity"... its product is ride support with added value, having the route on a GPS doesn't tell averything and riders should take advantage of Sam's work by purchasing it.

    But forcing each and every rider to re create it himself, is exagerated. And by the way even those who don't want to share their work have for sure provided it to their fellow riders... simple common sense...

    I am happy of what I bought from Sam, but I woul dhave appreciate to find the mapsource routes so I could save hours...

    What about all the gps traks posted bu ther peaople... are they lest valuable ? because one guy tries to sell something we can no longer share it ? :huh

    VoilĂ  !
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  13. RoughRider

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    gathering the GPS route routings from his customers that have created and used them, then provide them as an option to future customers.
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  14. Cannonshot

    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Super Moderator

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    I drew a trackline to follow (instead of building a route). It was easy and quick - even for the 2100 miles from TN thru NM. See post 72 for details . . .
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=225458&page=5

    If you've got the maps, I don't see a problem sharing this track. Even if you had the track, you would still want the maps as they have other info on them.

    Sam Correro has done some wonderful work with this thing and he has my deep appreciation, admiration, and respect. Here is a quote from his website regarding any fees he collects for map sets.
    "The price of my TAT-Map/TAT-Roll Chart odometer system of navigation is meant only to cover my costs of production and to cover the shipping fees to send to you. Mostly, I just want to share this amazing adventure."
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  15. touche

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    I got them for Tennesse, Mississipi and Arkansas, and now I am done with the routing in Mapsouce.

    I did reproduce the exact route from roll charts, linking waypoints named by the mileage as on the roll chats, that way riding with both GPS and rolls will be easy...
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  16. empedrado

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    Fortuantely for me I had purchased the maps and spent the time -- around two weeks -- converting the charts for the entire TAT to gps data. I just got back from riding the eastern leg (for me entering at the OK/NM border from Albuq). For various reasons we needed to ride from west to east. This would have been impossible to do without the gps data as the charts do not support this approach.

    I also made a waypoint for every point on the charts. That way I figured I could refer to the charts if I ever needed to. Turns out the gps data worked great and I never pulled the maps or charts out of the bags on the trip.

    Luckily I have two gps devices on my bike -- I ran one in the route mode and one with track logs. The track logs being the most accurate.
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  17. Python423

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    I agree here. I haven't purchased Sam's maps, nor do I plan to. I am in East TN, but all it is is public roadways. I share my GPS tracks , that I've took many hours finding and creating the prefect route, so others can do it w/o all the work. If there was sections of this so called TAT, that I felt was worth of sharing to the dualsport community, I would share it, free of charge. I don't care what someone is selling, its public roads, and should be freely shared amoung the dual sport community in my opinion.
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  18. Cannonshot

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    I think that since Sam is the sponsor of this route, it is better that any route information orginate with him for quality assurance purposes and to ensure that changes are implemented as required (for example, private property that now needs to be by-passed). It could be pretty confusing to having multiple versions out there that all claim to be current TAT info. Many people would like to see Sam get out of the paper business and instead post routes, tracks, and supporting information as downloads on his site. Coming from his site would ensure current and accurate information (quality control). On the other hand, many people still rely on roll charts and paper maps. Scanning in all the roll charts and maps would produce some huge files for download (although he could send a CD instead of all that paper). Also consider that the maps are 11X17 format right now. As much as I would like to see the gps and other downloads on the TAT site, it can still work okay now. Instead of everyone redoing the GPS workup, just post asking for a file if you want it - many, many folks are willing to share. You take your chances as to how good it is as there is no way to judge the quality ahead of time, but it gives you something to start with. My $.02 . . .
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  19. wheelnut46

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    Why doesnt someone donate their converted GPS points to Sam free of charge and after verification, he can simply provide them to his buyers as part of the package.
    It's nice of you all to be so protective for Sam's hard work/good intent but it doesnt make any sense for each user to re-invent the wheel and do all the conversion work.
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  20. gpfan

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    OK... My first, and last post.
    (Tried this on a few Canuck forums).

    Want a GPS. Shall also use it in the work car.

    Want the best bike version going.

    Please include mounting shyte problems
    or costs, with one's analysis.

    Could you nerds please help out a sport-bike
    chap, that does a lot of AdVen type touring
    on his wee RZ 350.

    andy
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