GPSmap 60CSX battery vibration

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by wheelnut46, Mar 21, 2008.

  1. wbbnm

    wbbnm Long timer

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    I have been able to fix battery problems by taking the unit apart and cleaning and bending these contacts up and putting dielectric grease on them. I've done this twice in 4 years and it has worked like a charm each time.

    If you use external power I would recommend disconnecting the tiny internal connector. Then try to clean the contacts on both sides and put dielectric grease on them too.

    And while you're at it clean the grease the contacts on both ends of the external power connector.
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  2. katbeanz

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    Don't give up on your 60 until you wire it to the bike's 12vdc. I got a montana 600 recently, while I like the bigger display I have to stop to use the touchscreen. I would prefer buttons.
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  3. Emmbeedee

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    I'm not sure why people think the power cable alone is going to put and end to the vibration related shutdowns on the 60. Mine continued to die with batteries and power cable hooked up. I didn't open my 60 to work on the internal connections, though.
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  4. DCMC

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    GPS for moto is really frustrating these days.

    The 60Csx is still the best moto GPS Garmin has made as far as I can tell hardware-wise. The 62 series isn't impressing anyone, and I see the Montana as being the unit of choice on this board not because of the touchscreen but because of its top-of-the-heap feature set like those external power contacts that don't break the waterproof barrier.

    ...and all this just to get the unit to stayed powered on and alive on the bars where you can operate it, then there's the crappy old software and the problem of finding a decent set of maps that won't set you back half the cost of the unit every year.
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  5. Emmbeedee

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    You obviously haven't tried the Montana. It's light years ahead of the 60 in a whole lot more ways than just the power connection. Maps have never been cheaper, and there are free ones out there which rival the Garmin ones.

    But one major advantage of the Montana and the rest of the modern line is that you have a helluva lot more flexibility in the map loading, since they don't all need to be loaded at once into one file as on the 60/76 series and most of the other legacy units.
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  6. DCMC

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    Ugh, yeah I certainly know that pain. Having to bake your own map images to get topo and route-able street maps requires a flipping computer science degree to do properly. I'm actually surprised I haven't seen any maps made by ADVers like the ones I described.

    I'm probably going to get a Montana with a proper mount as soon as I've had it with the 60Cx.
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  7. wayno

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    There are sponge rubber nose pads that you put on eyeglasses to make them more comfortable. I put these on the battery cover over the batteries and it snugged it up enough to stop the batteries from vibrating and losing contact:dunno
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  8. Emmbeedee

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    Often it's not the batteries losing contact; it's the battery terminals to main circuit board that loosens up. Your method will work in some cases of vibration induced shutdown, but not all.
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  9. wayno

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    Thanks just another idea that has fixed 2 hand held for now:thumb:D
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  10. toddiscdn

    toddiscdn Take off, EH!

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    I also say to anyone, dont give up on the 60 yet. I guess im one of the lucky ones, Ive been running my 60 csx for years now on both my sled and bike with minimal issues, hard wired to both, with batteries in so it stays on when the ignition is off. Ive used both a cig. lighter plug and direct wire with both of them being direct wire now and good quality rechargable batteries.

    The bike is my DR 650 thumper and the sled is a 800cc 2 stroke that appears to be shaking itself to death at idle, lol. Im sure mines checked out a couple times, more so on the sled I think, but mostly its been no issues, as I said I think Im one of the lucky ones as I have killed a couple legends before.

    If you can hard wiring is the key I think. Even on old or 2 stroke bikes it can be done, on the sled I made up a very simple rectifier to convert AC to DC to run the unit and even mounted a very small gell battery to store the power as well. I stole that idea from this unit http://snobunje.com/public/store.php?crn=72&rn=332&action=show_detail


    Good luck, Todd
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  11. Pantah

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    I'm just getting to know my 60Csx, but I'd sure like the Montana. I've had it two seasons and mostly use it for tracks. I like the buttons to page it with gloved hands, though.

    I bought the 4 prong cord with a coax connector. I tapped into my battery tender/heated gear cord and ran it up front ziptied to the bars. Mine has never shut off and I left the batteries in. But I have to unplug it when stopped for the day, or the GPS will drain the bike battery.

    My son raced the Mex 1k this spring with a 60cs not hard wired and it shut off periodically until the put something on the battery compartment.
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  12. Fire Escape

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    I am surprised that it will kill your battery. I know that I have left mine on for several days (not using the bike) without killing the battery on my DR 650. Unfortunately, many years ago I got the power pins wet (salt water), I cleaned the subsequent corrosion as best I could but one of the pins gave up last month. Perhaps I can get it fixed but I have already wasted 2 hours on Garmin's website trying to figure out how (it was already a 'replacement unit', the button on the back having come off when it was nearly new. Now, my serial number doesn't match what they have recoreded - because it IS a different unit than the one I sent them.......) to do it. Yeah, I know, call customer service, they are usually great but I have never been on hold LESS THAN 25 minutes to talk to them.



    Bruce
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  13. Pantah

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    I guess I don't actually know if charging the lithium GPS batteries will drain the bike, but I was told that somewhere here on the interweb. I unplug it just in case. :D
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  14. Fire Escape

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    I have been keeping disposable Lithiums in my GPSs for a few years now. It's been a long time since I read the manual but I thought that it said that in the case of rechargeables, they would not charge in the device and would have to be charged in a 'real' charger. That made me think that there were diodes at work keeping the batteries from being charged if left in place but that is all conjecture at this point. I do know that I have found the unit on (noticed the screen lit up after dark) when the bike hadn't been used for several days, perhaps someone passing by turned it on for me, since then I just never worried much about shutting it off but that will have to change since losing the ability to use mobile power.


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  15. Emmbeedee

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    You got that right. Garmin handhelds do not recharge batteries when plugged into a power source except of course the Montana with its Garmin Lithium battery. The Montana can also be used on AAs, but will not charge them even if they're rechargeable.
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