GS-LC - problems

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by atg, May 5, 2013.

  1. Beecher Snipes

    Beecher Snipes Fool

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    Yea, coolant & water, generally 50/50. But don't forget to use distilled water if you ever make up a batch.
  2. superspeed123

    superspeed123 Adventurer

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    Went to the dealer today, turn the rear wheel to 3 different brand new GS LC and found that there isn't much free play to the rear wheel. Heard that the rear brake pads wear off quite fast. Is this a known problem??
  3. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    Hope you mean free play ROTATING the wheels. There should be some but not much. If you mean along the axis, then there shouldn't be ANY free play.

    As for the rear pads I have heard the same. But have heard the same with previous 12GS too.
    I don't know if there are real statistics for this though.
    Remember 12GS breaks are semi-linked.
  4. superspeed123

    superspeed123 Adventurer

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    Yes.I was referring the free play rotating the rear wheel. did not know that LC brakes are semi-linked .
  5. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    Yes since 2004 (all 1200GS).
    Front activates a bit of the rear.
    Rear is stand-alone (used off-road mostly after all).
    So "statistically" makes sense that rear is used more than expected.
  6. Uly

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    So I've verified that the fan is coming on at 212F but just sitting there idling the temp continues to climb. If I'm moving all is fine.

    I also noticed something unusual and have a really silly question. Is there supposed to be a fan behind each radiator? I only have one on the right side.
  7. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    No, just one.
    Saves weight.
    I am not sure if temp climbing with fan on is normal.
  8. DasMatti

    DasMatti Been here awhile

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    Today an error struck me, I never thought it could happen again.

    Was standing at a stopsign and the guy in front of me fell asleep, or something. :evil
    So I honked at him. It came out more angry than anticipated. The horn kept stuck!

    I disconnected the cables from the left switch-cluster and rode it to the dealer.
    It took them roughly under 20 minutes to change the complete left side and send me back on the road. :eek1:clap I couldn't drink my coffee as fast as the mechanics were wrechning. Hadn't even got any time left to look at all the goodies they had laying around. :lol3
  9. steelerider

    steelerider Southafricanamerican

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    You have a problem. Take the bike to a dealer. With the fan on the temp should stabilize and then drop slowly.
    May be an airlock in the system.
  10. Existence_Inc

    Existence_Inc The Wanderer

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    :freaky Less beer at work I guess. Sorry about that. 212*F.

    ~Ex
  11. AZriderTST

    AZriderTST TST1

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    After reading this thread I checked my weep hole yes fluid had come out called dealer and they are ordering new water pump. It was clean a week ago. 24,500 mi on bike. Thanks for this forum.
  12. Glock owner

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  13. flyfishingfox

    flyfishingfox n00b

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    got my bike less than 45 days and cruise control just quit working.
    Dealer said taks aobut a week for them to get parts
  14. DMilan

    DMilan Been here awhile

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    Last week got a chance to ride a new R1200RT demo for 80 miles.
    Transmission from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd sucks....
    Clunks like junk.

    sorry , calls 'em as I sees 'em.

    There's a guy @ sportouring selling an RT after 200 miles...
    Quite a few 2013 LCGSs for sale as well.

    I bought a lot of BMW accessories anticipating the purchase of a new R1200GS LC. Vario cases, pegs, LED turn sigs... etc

    Thinkin' to just sell it all.
    Unless they get these bikes sorted out.
    Specifically new switch gear and a new transmission.

    I already have a BMW with a clunky transmission, a 2008 K1200GT...
    drives me nuts... don't want another one.

    my .02

    d'milan
  15. JetSpeed

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    I cannot believe that I'm still reading complaints about BMW's clunky transmissions, like this is something new.
    I've owned 3 of the bikes all clunky as the dickens, I wouldn't know what to do if they didn't, one thing about the new LC though is that once you learn the bike it is easy to shift it smoothly, but it is unforgiving to improper technique.
    If you get a 2014 add Shift Assist Pro and the gearbox is a dream.
  16. cug

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    Learning to shift the thing helps and then it doesn't clunk*(most of the time). I don't say it's great, don't me wrong here, but this bike needs to be shifted quite differently than other bikes I had.

    I found that if I ride like a total idiot I don't have any issues with clunky shifting other than going from neutral to first. So I adjusted my shifting during "normal riding" to the way I shift when I have fun and since then I have rarely any issues with the gearbox other than the moving clutch engagement point (different when cold/hot) and shifting into first from neutral.
  17. Byrdguy

    Byrdguy Been here awhile

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    The trans in my last bike (08 1200GS) was clunky with a lot of driveline lash. That's the only thing I didn't like about the bike. I never had any problems and learned how to shift to minimize it all, but one shouldn't have to. My new GSAW shifts great and has no discernible slack, a big improvement. The clutch is also smoother. An issue I'm trying to get used to is internal engine noise when the engine is warmed up and idling in neutral with the clutch out. Probably the trans gears rumbling in its belly and/or the new multiplate wet clutch. It usually takes a while for me to get used to all the quirks of a new bike.
  18. Tonopah

    Tonopah Been here awhile

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    I found that adjusting the clutch lever to a position closer to the handle bars improved shifting. In the OEM position I had to let the clutch lever out a looong way. That complicated timing the clutch and throttle contributing to sometimes jerky shifting. With the adjustable clutch lever in closer, it is much better.
  19. DMilan

    DMilan Been here awhile

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    Yeah, I hear ya...still hearing complaints
    You think they'd have addressed the issue by now.

    YEARS of switchgear issues, years of complaints regarding shift quality.

    Improper technique, that reminds me of my 2002 R1150 RT that surged badly at lower speeds. Some purists claimed that the rider was to blame. Rubbish.
    You should be able to motor along at 40 mph without suffering whiplash from a constantly hunting fuel injection system searching for the right mixture.

    I think many purchase these bikes not expecting such an issue, thus the complaints.
    It's a premium priced product.
    Shifting is a standard function, shouldn't be difficult, require special skills or techniques. Just like in a car. Push in the clutch, change gears, let out the clutch. Shouldn't sound like it's gonna grenade beneath you.

    Appreciate for your feedback Jetspeed, seems your a bright guy, aviator and all, but even the Shift Assist requires you to be heavy on the throttle from what I've read.
    I don't want to ride like that all the time.

    d'milan
  20. cug

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    I don't have to be heavy on the throttle for shifts to be smooth. I could probably match engine speed with the throttle and it would work as well, but what I do is a very, very quick shift - pull the clutch, switch gears, done. Very quick without giving the engine time to loose revs. Works here. Might or might not work for you.