Those are two bikes on my short list. I am basically after a budget tourer with just a dash of sport thrown in. Some city commuting ability is welcome but no longer the highest priority, ever since I discovered scooters are the perfect tool for that role. 600-650cc is sufficient for me; my most recent (just sold) bike was ER6n and I feel no great need to go up in size. I don't want to get the faired version of ER6 though - nothing terribly wrong with it, I just would like something different for a change. Some things I am looking for are: Smooth engine - no vibrations please! Something that annoyed me quite a bit on my ER6. Some wind protection, so I'm not considering another naked at this stage - been there, done that. General ease of riding and living with the bike. I don't want to have to tame my bike, nor do I want to form a passionate love/hate relationship with it - I just want to ride it :) I had a short ride on the Suzuki and it seemed pretty right for me, but sort of heavy. Close, but still I wonder about the Yamaha which just came on our market and which I haven't even seen in the flesh yet - is it lighter? Might it be better finished? Yamahas usually rate well in quality stakes, but this is a budget edition and I wonder how many corners they cut... So, has anyone tried them both and can offer any impressions?