Guitar thread

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by rajflyboy, Jan 31, 2010.

  1. Signal

    Signal Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow

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    the sales guys thought it might be a mis-print and had to check pricing, they claim $600 is 300 under invoice
  2. josjor

    josjor Long timer

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    Stop playing with your eyes and use your ears.:D Seriously....I've played some $3k USA stuff that I wouldn't give you a nickel for and some $200 Chinese stuff that was amazing. And vice versa.

    Sorry. I've just never understood the snobbery. If it plays good and sounds good, who cares where it's made?
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  3. chippertheripper

    chippertheripper motorcycle junkie

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    ^ amen.
  4. Stretch67

    Stretch67 Mad Scientist

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    This. I've done a side-by-side comparison between my 'hecho en México Stratocastero' and my BIL's American Standard Strat. They're essentially identical.
  5. sasho

    sasho Dual Personality

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    What a beauty!!! Can't go wrong with that one!! :clap

    Meanwhile, it's official. I am a dumbass!!! Sold my Fender Mustang III amp... :tough:baldy:becca
  6. Signal

    Signal Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow

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  7. 2whlrcr

    2whlrcr gooligan

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    Guess everyone missed the LOL at the end. I was half joking. The cheapies I just bought, don't play as well or sound as good as my American guitars, at least to my hands and ears. And I've stated before, I'm a nobody and nobody is gonna wanna hear me play. I am surprised that for $150, they do as well as they do and I think they are a very good value. I've picked up some other cheap guitars and couldn't even play them, they were so bad. I'm giving these as gifts to my kids, who both play a little and if they were junk, I'd be using them for firewood (literally), instead of pawning them off on someone else.

    To me guitars are one of the few products left, where you can buy American craftsmanship and it doesn't have to break the bank. I'm not rich and only own five guitars, one of which is an import and I like how it sounds and plays and heck, it's made out of plastic. As a guitar store owner, you have the advantage of comparing many different guitars, at different price points. I rely on my local preferred shop, to do that for me. I have no hesitation in spending a little more, to get an American made guitar. And were talking strictly acoustic, I don't own an electric or an amp, no plugging in for me.

    Most of my other hobbies all the products come from other countries and I have no choice, guitars I can keep at home, let the snobbery continue...
  8. Daniii

    Daniii geezer

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    I own 2 1964 Guild guitars (6 and 12 string "dreadnoughts" ). Visiting a Guild dealer recently I was sad to see all the pretty Guilds they had on display were made in China. :(
  9. josjor

    josjor Long timer

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    Nobody ruins a good company with quite as much success as Fender.
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  10. BMW Kurt

    BMW Kurt Picker of Tunes

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    I own both of these. Both made in China. The 12 string was great right out of the box. Th Starfire required a minor set up, and then it sounded great.
  11. Chuckracer

    Chuckracer Jerkus Maximus

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    I couldn't dis-agree more. While the difference isn't night and day, there for sure IS a difference, and sometimes a BIG difference.
  12. The_Commander

    The_Commander The Man.

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    Pre-Fender, American made Guild.

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  13. Daniii

    Daniii geezer

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    I recommend keeping the 12 string tuned to "D" instead of "E". Had the face collapse on mine, but the factory (in New Jersey at the time) repaired it for free. Seems like sending yours back to China would be a PIA.

    My late 60's Starfire required a towel inside the body to prevent feedback at high volume. I played it in both a C&W and and acid rock band in 1970 when I was stationed in Thailand. The frets are worn out and some day I'll get it refretted.
  14. josjor

    josjor Long timer

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    My point wasn't that USA made isn't as good or sometimes better. But at some point I always seem to come to a juncture where I ask "Yes, it's better, but is it $2,000.00 better?" Usually the answer is "no."

    There's a premium paid for made in the USA acoustics that most times, at least by the big manufactures, isn't at all warranted. My favorite example? Gibson's cheapest mandolin is the F-9 and retails for nearly $5k. Meanwhile The Loar can sell me an all hand-carved AAA grade spruce and maple model for a grand and yes, it does sound and play better or equivalent to the F-9.
    No doubt. It's just that my experience has been that the difference isn't always the way you seem to be assuming. But I'm sure you're right. That's why we all ride Harleys, since, you know, American made is always better.
  15. Chuckracer

    Chuckracer Jerkus Maximus

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    No, it's generally not a $2000 difference, but sometimes it is. Anyhoo the difference is there and it's worth it to me. And no, I'm not assuming - 40 some odd years of experience and having owned a shit-ton of gear over the years teaches one a lot.

    And i ride Ducati's and KTM's, just for the record. :-)
  16. josjor

    josjor Long timer

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    But, but, but......American is better! :lol3
    My point is that guitars are like motorcycles, cars, and about every thing else: Most every manufacturer of any repute, regardless of their country of origin, makes some real shit and some good shit. Two things I ignore when I'm test playing guitars: the price and the name on the headstock. If it plays good and it sounds good, I don't give a shit where it's made or who made it or how much it costs. Country of origin or manufacturer name is no guarantee.
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  17. Crocker

    Crocker Just passing through

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    I saw that and it hurts. I have a custom mesa boogie cab on order though, I don't have money and really don't need it but damnit I want it.
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  18. Signal

    Signal Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow

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    like many , I play in waves- then the stuff will gather dust
    made fingers hurt last night :lol3

    May have to get some brighter nickel strings- the current/stock are like cables
  19. DangerMoney

    DangerMoney Loud Helmets Save Lives

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    For most of us guitars are like cars and motorcycles: They're not a "need" thing, they're a "want" thing.

    And if you settle for less and don't get you want, you're always going to want what you want.

    People can call me a snob and any other name they like... I don't care. I want ( and am fortunate enough to be able to buy some of) the American-made guitars I want... and I've played some shit American-made instruments and happily paid the price for some great ones.
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  20. Scott of the Sahara

    Scott of the Sahara Been here awhile

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    I bought that guitar a couple of years ago in 2014. I paid over $1200 for it and have never looked back. It is plywood, but very nice plywood. The made in USA version with solid wood construction goes for around $10,000. Since I use this amplified, I do not need the solid wood top. This guitar resonates much better that most archtops I have played.
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