Guzzi Griso

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  1. Rox

    Rox Been here awhile

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    I love Guzzis. I love the Griso. Great reliable motorcycle. Ride like freight trains. Not the fastest bike in the world but have the character.
    I'll eventually own one but currently am too busy loving my V11 LeMans.
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  2. Toto

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    A beautiful bike !
    Moto Guzzi, put ABS on it and I would seriously consider it.
    No ABS on a bike like that... inexcusable in this day and age....:cry
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  3. Iranian

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    Agree! You never no what happens on the road. Here in EU it is going to be mandetory for bikes to be equipped with ABS and I can't understand why MG has not introduced it yet for the griso l:dunno

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  4. Rox

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    I personally don't like ABS. Great on a car but not on a bike. If everyone standardizes to ABS i hope there will be an On/Off switch.
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  5. kirb

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    Careful what you wish for...there isn't a lot of room on the griso to mount the ABS pump. Let's hope they don't torch the looks trying to make it fit.
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  6. RonS

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    +1. That and I hate linked brakes as well.
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  7. Iranian

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    In EU, I think they are not going to allow the driver to switch it off, just because of the fact that some people will shut it off. This has been discussed a lot in EU.

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  8. ph0rk

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    What's to hate?

    How often do you apply the front brake and wish to not apply the rear? I can't think of a single time I wanted that to happen.

    Most modern linked brakes are linked at the front lever and the rear pedal operates the rear brakes independently. The linked brakes on my r1200r work brilliantly.
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  9. Omarius

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    You can just disconnect a wheel sensor. It's probably easier to unplug a sensor than work through a crappy user interface in a digital dash to figure out how to toggle it off.
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  10. Iranian

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    Perhaps disconnecting the abs fuse is even easier way to do it. There is a will there is away.


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  11. rocker59

    rocker59 diplomatico di moto

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    That's not "The Guzzi Way". Keep in mind that Guzzi was first to market with integrated brakes back in the 1970s.

    On a Guzzi (California Vintage / 90 was the last with the system), the foot pedal controls the rear brake and one front rotor. The hand lever controls one front rotor. There was a proportioning valve that helped control front/rear bias for the integrated foot brake.

    I guess it was that way from the Lemans of 1976, through the California 90 of 2012. The Small Block, Spine Frame, and CARC models never had the Guzzi Integrated Braking System. Only the Tonti-framed bikes.
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  12. ph0rk

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    Well that certainly sounds bass-ackwards :rofl
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  13. rocker59

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    My '91 LeMans has the system. Works fine.
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  14. ph0rk

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    I'm sure I could get used to it, but I can see why some people might hate it.
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  15. DFH

    DFH 270 deg crank

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    No it doesn't! Got into a horrible tank-slapper at high speed on a LeMans once. Eased off the throttle (as you do) but front end continued lockstop to lockstop, so eased I on the rear brake (as you should) which had the effect of locking the front wheel mid-oscillation. Muggings was instantly flicked up into a handstand to land back into the tank & RHS cylinder head (badly bruised nuts & knee) but my weight landing back on the front of the bike killed the tank-slapper & I was able to pull over in tears of pain. Biggest non-crash I've ever had. I delinked the brakes on my subsequent Guzzi's

    BTW Rocker59 the small block Guzzi's had linked brakes as well. I have ridden three different v50 Monza's & two different v65 (one with those horrible pushrod 4 valve heads) and they all had linked brakes.
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  16. Rox

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  17. rocker59

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    Must be quite the hard-charger to get an early LeMans into a tank-slapper!

    Admittedly, my knowledge of the small block bikes grows weaker the farther back in time one goes. Guess I need to brush up on my V50/V65 info.
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  18. RonS

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    I rarely use the rear brake. Low speed maneuvers in parking lots and off road on dirt bikes/dual sports is about it. When you need to brake, the rear does not provide any breaking capability. It’s simple physics. Too little weight back there when you’re breaking hard.
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  19. ph0rk

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    So why not let a computer calculate the maximum amount of rear braking that can be applied in a given stop? I don't lift the rear wheel every time I stop (not that I could with ABS on). I'm not riding a supersport bike, and the rear brake is still able to provide 20-30% of my bike's total stopping power.

    In that scenario, using only the front lever on a linked-brake bike will stop you faster than using only the front lever on the same bike with linked brakes disabled. (Assuming BMW, Honda, Yamaha style linked brakes). Maybe my bike is just heavy, but you can feel the rear pedal engage quite a bit in most stops and the rear wheel doesn't lock, nor does ABS engage.
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    Some of us ride motorcycles to get away from computers and other electronic intrusions into our daily lives...