Guzzi Nuovo Falcone

Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by leafman60, Dec 18, 2012.

  1. leafman60

    leafman60 Long timer

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    Well, Im gonna leave the seals on my new bearings alone BUT, if I wanted to add more grease, I'd just remove the inboard seal and pack the bearing. Grease flinging out inboard in the wheel hub will not endanger the brakes.

    Sealed bearings are on my modern bikes and they work fine.
  2. leafman60

    leafman60 Long timer

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    Andy, have you considered lightening your flywheel ? Escher really recommended that for mine.
  3. Andy-Gadget

    Andy-Gadget Any bike can go anywere

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    I have, and will leave it along for the time being, with the logical thing being to modify another flywheel if I was going to, rather than the one I have :-)

  4. huub

    huub Been here awhile

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    depends what you are aiming for , lighter valves is a good idea if you dont want to end up with a hole in the piston, so that is recommended
    lightening the flywheel also makes quite a difference, the gearchange improves a lot . whether you feel the gearchange needs to be improved is up to you.
    i just got myself a stock cylinder when it had a holed piston ,
    to be honest i cant see the point in tuning the absolute slowest bike in existance. but that might be me. :wink:

    now the oil pump.
    the stock pump has no bearings , the pump shaft runs in the alloy pump body. because of this it wears out at a amazing rate.
    add to that that everybody fits a extra oil line to the cylinder head dumping oil on the inlet valve, oil that is obviously not reaching the bigend
    especially when you like you NF to idle at 400 RPM.
    the lack of oil seal on the end of the crankshaft doesnt help either.
    and the camshaft is lubricated by oil coming from the pressure release valve , so leave the engine idling for too long with low oil pressure causes rapid camshaft wear.
    i am not aware of somebody manufacturing falcone oil pumps with decent needle bearings, so i needed a upgraded pump


    my solution is to fit a pump for a twin , which has the needle bearing , so no more problems with wear.
    the original falcone pump has 11 mm wide gears , a pump from a tonti twin does better with 16 mm gears which adds 45% to the oil flow.
    if you get a upgraded pump with 18 mm wide gears , you've got 65 % more oil flow.
    running that pump the oilpressure release valve is open all the time...

    if you buy a new one, the upgraded pump is cheaper , so that is a easy choice.
    if you are on a tight budget , get a used pump from ebay, and modify that.
    even a used pump from a T3 will be far better than a new falcone pump.

    cheers,
    Hubert
  5. leafman60

    leafman60 Long timer

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    Hubert, give us a link to one of the upgraded pumps, please.

    Also, didn't you once say that the mounting holes need to be widened for the pump to fit the Falcone?
  6. leafman60

    leafman60 Long timer

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    Here's your previous post and also this link that you gave -

    http://www.ebay.de/itm/MOTO-GUZZI-Ol...-/160865867818


    But, what about the pump with 18MM gears ? Where is that?






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  7. huub

    huub Been here awhile

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    the one from the link has hohere forderleistung , wich means improved capacity.

    it is the one with the 18 mm gears
  8. leafman60

    leafman60 Long timer

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    Thanks Hubert
  9. David 54

    David 54 Adventurer

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    Just had e mail from Barbara Escher, the parts have been ordered (lighter valves and a 94mm BMW piston) the engineering work will be done next week. So looking forward to getting my NF back on the road.
  10. huub

    huub Been here awhile

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  11. jellycow

    jellycow Back on track!

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    If anybody needs help contacting the owner or translating, drop me a mail.
    I'm not close (200km) so I'm not gonna look it over for you. Maybe some other Duthman living closer will drop in and offer that service :D
  12. bk brkr baker

    bk brkr baker Long timer

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  13. 996DL

    996DL Buell me

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    finally back in paradise...
    Hopefully not the result, of some reality program's big suprise build mod,
    on an unsuspecting Falcone owners dusty resto candidate.

    Good one bk brkr baker ! :huh :lol3

    996DL
  14. leafman60

    leafman60 Long timer

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    That's an interesting thing to look at but it doesn't push many of my buttons. I like the traditional café racer look done by the guy in Holland(?)


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  15. some kid

    some kid on a motorbike

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    Pronounced fal cone, or fal coney?
    Just found this - watch it scoot backwards when he "revs" it.
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  16. leafman60

    leafman60 Long timer

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    Nuovo : is Nuu-oh-voh

    Falcone : is fal-co-nay

    Different dialects emphasize different nuances. Also, you gotta get some musical cadence going too. Make it kinda roll off your tongue.

    Of course,

    Guzzi : is Goot- see
  17. some kid

    some kid on a motorbike

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    Thanks, that's what I thought. I love my V50, but could definately see myself owning one of these someday. Should I ever start asking around for one, now I can sound educated.
  18. David 54

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  19. leafman60

    leafman60 Long timer

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    My Civile is undergoing a facelift. Hope to be back up with it soon.

    Paint is being touched-up, turn signals installed, led lighting, CEV switch replaced, relay installed on headlamp circuit, new tires, brakes removed and joints lubed, new wheel bearings.
  20. BLU HWY

    BLU HWY Guilty By-Stander

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    Hi, have been offered this Guzzi in trade, don't want to be long term owner.
    Have looked at many but not all pages, seems to be a military Falcone?

    Wondering if I may ask an approximate real world value & interest level?
    Located Northern California/ Oregon. California title.

    Sure would appreciate insights from fellow Inmates!

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