Guzzi Nuovo Falcone

Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by leafman60, Dec 18, 2012.

  1. leafman60

    leafman60 Long timer

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    On another note, I checked and re-set my valve lash.

    There is an unexplained quandary surrounding this operation. In the Guzzi english language service manual, the lash clearances are given as .10mm exhaust, .05mm intake. On the other had, in the italian language manual they give the spec as much looser .20 exhaust, .10 intake.

    I set my valve to the loose italian specs and the motor made noticeably more noise. Tick tick tick.

    I went back and re-set to the tighter standards (with a loose drag on the feelers). The motor sounds much better but I'll have to check back in a thousand miles to make sure the gap hasnt closed up.
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  2. leafman60

    leafman60 Long timer

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    Running like a top now.
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  3. jbcaddy

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    I just saw a military version at Ozzie's BMW in Chico, CA. I didn't have a camera and got busy ordering parts and forgot to ask about it. It did look to be a often ridden bike.
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  4. huub

    huub Been here awhile

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    if you are running tight clearances make sure you check very often. these engines tend to be quite hard on the valves.
    it is easy to overheat a valve , the too strong valve springs do the rest.

    i run big clearances (.20 in and exhaust) and never worried about the noise.
    especially because mine has all the police tinwork which reflects all the engine noise.

    pretty weird , just found a couple of pics of my nuovo on the ADRrider forum,,
    of all places found it in the cafe racer thread....... :evil

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13396323 (scroll down , third pic)
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  5. danedg

    danedg Horizontally Opposed

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    I'll give those zipties about 5-1/2 seconds in that situation.


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  6. leafman60

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    Au contraire, mon ami. It's been working fine for some time now. The nylon ties engage nothing and move smoothly with the kick mechanism. There's not much stress on the straps holding the spring. The ties dont really hit anything while kicking.
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  7. leafman60

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    I have some metal zip ties but decided not to use them when the plastic ones worked just fine. You cannot see them either.
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  8. David 54

    David 54 Adventurer

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    Hi Everyone, I have one of these wonderful machines (1970 ex Carabinieri model) they are very addictive, it's amazing how much pleasure you can have going quite slowly!
    Mine has had 75mph on the clock but is much happier cruising at about 50. Will post some pictures soon
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  9. leafman60

    leafman60 Long timer

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    Dang. 75 ? If that's real speed were you going on a long, downhill stretch coming out of the Rocky Mountains or the Alps?
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  10. huub

    huub Been here awhile

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    not that bad , 70-75 is my normal cruising speed on highways.
    i fitted a 31 tooth rear sprocket to keep revs ( and vibrations) down.
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  11. leafman60

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    I guess that smaller rear sprocket also cuts down on wheelies and those sling-shot accelerations
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  12. huub

    huub Been here awhile

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    you might be right , i have never had trouble with unwanted wheelies... :evil
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  13. leafman60

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    Okay, another little helpful hint. Wanna improve the air filtration of your stock steel-wool/oil air cleaner ? Read on.

    The stock air cleaner on the Civilian NFalc is Dellorto version of one of those delightful period pieces with steel wool that you saturate with oil to catch contaminants.

    I thought I'd look for a modern paper or gauze filter but was unable to locate the proper 3 7/8 inch diameter size with the proper height before I realized I'd like to just keep the original ole-timey filter. It probably does okay anyway.

    Then I remembered the little "pre-filter" foam wraps used on many small engines and auto applications. As luck would have it, during a visit to my local Lowe's store today, I found a Briggs and Stratton pre-filter that fits and works perfectly on the small round stock civilian air cleaner. The thing slips right over and fits neatly inside the louvered aluminum cover.


    The stock air cleaner on the Nuovo Falcone Civile (darn, I just now noticed that little dent in one of my louvers) -

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    The inside old-fashioned steel filter-

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    The Briggs pre-filter #796254 -

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    The Briggs and Stratton pre-filter oiled and fitted over the stock cleaner element-

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    Cover re-installed -

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  14. huub

    huub Been here awhile

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  15. norton73

    norton73 drinkin'

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    maybe he meant kph :D
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  16. leafman60

    leafman60 Long timer

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    Lol. That's more like it.
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  17. leafman60

    leafman60 Long timer

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    If not, I have only one thing to say:

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    lol j/k
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  18. Andy-Gadget

    Andy-Gadget Any bike can go anywere

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    In for a penny, in for a pound, just made deposits on two military Nuovo Falcones.

    The red one is a zero kilometer Italian fire service bike, never issued.
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    The sand coloured one is a used Sahara from Umbria in Italy.
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  19. leafman60

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    Sheeza. Darn ! Awesome ! Lucky man. Where did you find those ? Italy ?



    Hey there, Mr. Hobart, do you ever see a spectacular green 850GT running around there? I sold it to a nice man there.
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  20. Andy-Gadget

    Andy-Gadget Any bike can go anywere

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    The zero kilometer bike is in Stafford in the UK, but came from Italy, the Sahara is in Umbria in central Italy, but due to the difficuties of getting a motorcycle registered in Italy if you don't live there, I will probably get it sent to the UK as well as I can get a motorcycle registered there a whole lot easier.
    Then I shall "tonk" around the UK and western Europe for six months then send them both home to Australia.

    As to the nice 850T, I think I know it, as I am in the Italian Motorcycle Club of Tasmania, the biggest club in Tasmania after the useless sissies club, even though half the members DON'T own Italian motorcycles, they just like the club.