Guzzi Nuovo Falcone

Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by leafman60, Dec 18, 2012.

  1. leafman60

    leafman60 Long timer

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    Now, I like those old horses that people ACTUALLY RIDE day to day.

    Both of those bikes look like the real thing. No cream-puff garage queens there !
  2. leafman60

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    Hey I have a technical question. My CEV light switch has just malfunctioned. Inside looks like the central pivot post that's made to the plastic rocker button has overheated and slightly melted that plastic rocker button.

    I'm not sure what caused this. There are no lamps that draw heavy current on the bike.

    Any suggestions?
  3. huub

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    if the contacts inside the switch get dirty, the resistance causes the contacts to heat up , to the point of melting.
    so there is nothing actually wrong with the wiring , you just had a corroded contact.
    only solution to avoid this is to wire in relays , or keep the contacts inside the switch clean.
  4. leafman60

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    Well, Hubert, they looked clean !
  5. leafman60

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    Okay, we've gone over a week with no posting. We gotta scratch up some comments !
  6. Andy-Gadget

    Andy-Gadget Any bike can go anywere

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    Nice looking NF, looking forward to getting to ride one of my two, two weeks or so to go.

    Giving serious thought to bringing the two Nuovo Falcone's back to Oz, on the back of this.
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    In a 20' container of coarse :deal
  7. Hippodan

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    Boy, that must have been quite the heavy duty utility vehicle in its day!
    By the way, I'm fixing to list my NF on eBay, so before I do that, anyone on the list looking for a good running bike? Previously gone through by Blue Moon Cycle. $6,495, located in Ontario.
    Cheers,
    Dan
  8. leafman60

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    That's a nice NF.
  9. leafman60

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    cough cough
  10. Andy-Gadget

    Andy-Gadget Any bike can go anywere

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  11. leafman60

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    Interesting pics !
  12. leafman60

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    Well, my NFalcone is under a make-over. I've planned on doing this since I bought the bike and the time has finally arrived. Nothing big. New tires, new cables, turn signals, a few other items.

    When I received the bike, it seemed to really be lagging when underway. Struck me as a dragging brake. I loosened the brake adjusters to no avail and eventually just dismissed it as the normal lethargic characteristic of the bike.

    With the wheels off, many things were revealed. First the wheel bearings were so difficult to turn that I couldn't move them with my fingers. Apparently the 40-year-old grease inside them has petrified. I'm replacing them.

    Then, on the rear wheel, I discovered the internal large shim washer had not been properly installed. Looks like it had slipped off alignment when the axle was installed. It was deformed and pinched inside the hub, rubbing and providing a lot of the drag that I noticed.

    New cables- brake, clutch, decomp, speedo, tach, all are being replaced. I've also lubed (with brake lube) and freed up the shoe actuators.

    Man, when I get this thing back together it's gonna feel like a wild tiger with 15 more horsepower !

    After a long period of deliberation and searching, I have settled on a set of turn signals. I'm using genuine (period) Lucas units. I have a few other illumination upgrades to preserve the bike's appearance and yet provide a more noticeable presence on the road at night.

    The previous owner had installed a halogen headlight. I should have paid attention to this but I overlooked it. Now it has melted my CEV switch. Thankfully, I have a new one.

    I will install relays to remove any big current from the new switch. I may also re-wire it and use the on-off 3-way rocker as my turn signal switch.

    I have another 3-way rocker CEV but the turn signal switch on the left would be more intuitive and in-line with my other bikes. I can simply use the main
    ignition switch to activate the lighting just as is the case with modern bikes.

    Anyway, this takes time. I'm waiting on a few items from europe. I'm pretty anal about all-enclosed wiring looms etc so there is no hurry.

    So, in a couple of weeks the Falcone will take flight again. I'm thinking about an extended tour on it for 3 or 4 days ! I havent done the Natchez Trace in years and the Falcone would be a good instrument for playing that tune.
  13. David 54

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    Well in April I said how reliable my Falcone was (it had been totally) now I have just had a repetition of what happened on the bottom of page 7 on this thread. I am now looking at sending my barrel and head to Eschers in Germany (I live 25 miles from London, England) for repair..........££$$ ouch. No need to post a picture, it's exactly the same damage!
  14. huub

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    sorry to hear that ,
    i know how you feel , the piston on page 7 was mine.:eek1
    i ended up doing the head rebuild myself, but you need some specialist tools.

    not sure what escher charges , but this is a nice price http://www.ebay.de/itm/Moto-Guzzi-N...pt=Motorrad_Kraftradteile&hash=item43b7a8b1a7
    whoever you use, check they fit softer valvesprings , stock springs are way to stiff, fitting lighter valves makes it even less nesecary to have stiff springs

    also check his other ebay ads for pistons.
  15. David 54

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    The guy at Escher's in Germany is called Hubertus, I thought it might be you! I have just e mailed him asking about lighter valves. I do need a rebore so will go with their recommendation to go to 540cc. I will keep you informed on here how things go.
  16. huub

    huub Been here awhile

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    sorry not me.
    the only connection i have with escher is that i sometimes buy parts from them
  17. David 54

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    Valves kit with all equipment = 429,90€
    Piston 94 mm = 159,00€
    Position f. Valves in the piston= 88,00€
    Cyilnder from 88 to 94 mm = 122,00€
    The above figures are from an e mail I received from Eschers regarding repair to my Falcone, not quite sure what "Position f.valves in the piston means, possibly lost in translation!.
    Total £678 GB Pounds or $1047 USD

  18. huub

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    at a guess, those are valve cutouts in the piston , to accommodate the valves.
    the valve kit is a tad expensive, for basically a set of valves , valve springs and a set of guides.

    you might ask MTS ricambi for a quote
    (another german parts guys, the ones from the ebay ad above)
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  20. David 54

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    If that $6450 is Can $ then it's all the money compared to prices in Europe, but I appreciate they NF's are few and far between on your side of the pond