Guzzis, Mustangs, Triumphs and other Projects

Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by mach1mustang351, Sep 26, 2014.

  1. mach1mustang351

    mach1mustang351 Long timer

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    Well everyone, I was bitten by the Guzzi bug months ago and haven't recovered. I am looking for a winter project (already bought a basket case Yamaha) then this Guzzi comes along. I have been reading about them and was looking for a little more feed back. What do you all think about this model, engine, etc. any arguments for or against versus any other older Guzzi. Yes I know a Lemans 1 is ideal but not so much in the cards right now. Any help appreciated.
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  2. ianboydsnr

    ianboydsnr Been here awhile

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    Inside every SP is a lemans waiting to get out,

    The engines are not as tuned, nor do they have the larger carbs, and they will always be of lower value, but they are great guzzi's non the less!
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  3. Nessman

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    Tell us about the SP? Pics?

    There were two "early" SP1000s. Pre 1980 had the same footpegs as the LeMans I/II and the same exhaust but chromed rather than black. You don't get the awesome gas tank though.

    A small-valve (like the SP) Guzzi motor is every bit as fast as a "real" LeMans with a few basic upgrades like 36mm carbs and less restrictive exhaust.
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  4. mach1mustang351

    mach1mustang351 Long timer

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    I'll try and get pics tomorrow. I talked with the guy today and I'm going to look at it tomorrow. It is supposedly the legendary "ran when parked" condition. It ran poorly when he parked it, he suspects "carb issues or timing." It is also missing the lower fairings but is "100% complete otherwise." He is starting negotiations at $1200. It is always a crap shoot on bikes that you cant hear run first. We'll see tomorrow I guess.
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  5. Nessman

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    :freaky
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  6. JonnyCash

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    Unless it's just a rusty disaster, $1200 is pretty cheap for these bikes. Best of all, you know you won't have to deal with chrome bores and their automatic need for replacement. I'm a sucker, but I'd almost be willing to buy it sight unseen for that price. Around where I live, Guzzis come up for sale very infrequently, and then they are usually a big rust pile, AND expensive!
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  7. Wirespokes

    Wirespokes Beemerholics Anonymous

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    I'll second that! They don't show up very often here either. I finally got a low mile 76 T3 basket case for $500. I'd think $1200 for a complete bike that shouldn't take too much to get running is a great deal! If it was close to me I'd be figuring out how to raise the cash.
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  8. mach1mustang351

    mach1mustang351 Long timer

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    I'm kind of on the same page with this. If it is any way salvageable it will likely be my bike. I never thought of a 1000sp as my Guzzi I would end up getting but the more I read about them they seem pretty cool. I also firmly believe all Guzzis are good Guzzis
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  9. stainlesscycle

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    i should have never sold mine - they make a great long distance rider...
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  10. JonnyCash

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    So how is yours coming?:ear
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    bdonley Been here awhile

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    Had a G-5. Basically the bare version, with floorboards. Barn find. Cleaned it up, "Lemansified" it. Agostini rear sets, Lafranconi pipes, low bars, modded carbs,gear drive timing ,etc. Great bike! Probably the best "real motorcycle" I've ever owned.
    The heavy clutch caused me to sell it. I was already having carpal tunnel problems, and that irritated it further.
    Since having surgery, tried multiple times to buy it back.
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  12. Rob Farmer

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    I ran this one for a while. The Sp is getting very sought after in the UK. So many have been chopped to build cafe racers there aren't any good standard ones left. This one was subsequently chopped up to make a Cafe machine by a newer owner.

    They feel very strange to start with, the foot pegs are pretty high and a long way forward. The fairing is very good. They have that wonderful way of looping along and eating the miles that is unique to Guzzi. They do make BMW's feel very sterile.

    Everybody should have a Guzzi at some point in there lives.

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  13. Morizzi

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    I agree with Rob. Same thing in Australia. Very hard to find one that hasn't been cut down or butchered. Turns a world class tourer into something you can't even take to the shops as there is nowhere to carry anything. Many in the early days were converted to LM I look alikes too though they were more akin to a LMII. Same dash and fork spacings.

    All bikes have pros and cons.

    Pros:
    Iron bores, better than chrome but not as good as nigasil.
    Low stressed motor so will run on virtually any available grade of fuel.
    Same frame geometry as 850 LMs.
    Good solid and accessible attachment points for luggage.
    Excellent weather protection.
    23 Litre tank with the range to match.
    Tank has fuel flap making tank bags easier to fit.
    Comprehensive dash. Same as LMII.
    Integral brakes that were common to Guzzis at the time. Excellent once you get used to them.

    Cons:
    VHB carbs. Getting old, worn, parts difficult to find and stiff action.
    Crappy timing chain tensioner. Uprated spring version available.
    Old style breather box.
    Poor side stand but is easily modified.
    Didn't come with a sump extension but available.
    Lower fairings are often broken at attachment points due to poor fitment by owners.
    Lower fairings can be intrusive to taller riders. I put LM 3 version on mine.

    The US got the CX100 instead of the LM 2. This is basically a SP1000 with PHF 36 carbs and cosmetics from the LM2, seat, tank and fairing.

    Rod
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  14. mach1mustang351

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    Well I made the commitment. It needs some TLC but I think it is more than a solid starter. As the seller stated it is missing the lower fairings and the wind screen is a little cracked and separating but all can be fixed. He disconnected the battery when stored a year ago and amazingly enough he connected it and we heard it crank over. It used to be red and was repainted white and the paint it pealing, shown on fender. I even got him to deliver it to me tomorrow... and I got him down to $800

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    SpikeC Been here awhile

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    What a great project!
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  16. JonnyCash

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    well done there! You'll have it going in no time.
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  17. mach1mustang351

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    Yea. I cant see the $80 Virago getting much love this winter. his this won out I think.
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  18. Nessman

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    I'd be peeling off $100 bills so fast I'd pull a thumb muscle.
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  19. stainlesscycle

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    800 is a killer deal for that bike. if you're tall, you won't like the lowers. that bike goes through the rain/inclement weather better than any other bike out there. a convert with sp faring would probably be a better all weather bike though...
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  20. sjc56

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    Nice fine. I have owned two 79's and they have been my favorite Guzzi's after the LeMans III I had.
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