Gymkhana

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Vulfy, May 6, 2012.

  1. Vulfy

    Vulfy Been here awhile

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    One thing that I'm noticing from the video above, is that a grassy field after any sort of practice or competition will not be "grassy" any more. :evil
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    nuggets It's all my fault...

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    I like it :evil. I was just outside enlarging my play area so that I can get a bit more slide going on.

    I am glad you guys enjoyed my video
  3. TheWall

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    I agree completely with the little, low-powered bikes comment. It's why I've been searching for something in the 250-450cc range since I've started trying the gymkhana thing, although it looks like I might pick up an XS750 this afternoon to supplement my Wee-Strom (neither small, light nor low-powered, but it's cheap, lol!).

    And yeah, I've already got crash bars and side cases on the Wee, which have more than paid for themselves in the three low-speed drops I've had to date, although none of the drops have been while practicing gymkhana. For that matter, none of the drops have been *since* I started practicing gymkhana, either :knocks_on_wood:
  4. Harvey Krumpet

    Harvey Krumpet Long timer

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    Oh nuggets! You have got me right in the poo now. I practice with my G/F, she rides a DT 230 Lanza.. and wants to learn how to pop wheelies... Just sent her the link, I wonder what we will be doing when I get home?
    I wonder if I can do that on the TDM, hmmmmmm, 240kg?
    Excellent contribution. Thank you.:freaky
  5. nuggets

    nuggets It's all my fault...

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    Watch this:

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    I learned from this. Absolutely necessary to use that technique with the low powered XT.
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    IKIGAI Been here awhile

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  7. Harvey Krumpet

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    That's how I learned, started off on trials bikes & wee trailies like your XT, The 2t's are a bit easier to get up, too easy if your heavy handed. The wee DT will stand up straight off the throttle if your weight is right back, 1st, 2nd and 3rd but pulls like a trials bike off the bottom.

    Cheers for the link, passed it on. All your responsibility!! Any damages i will send you the bill..
  8. Storm Shadow

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    ive ridden around my back yard for many many years, usually i live on an acre, but recently moved to a small yard,

    ridden around wiches hats, with a baby on the tank, my arm in a sling as i dont have the use of my left arm much anymore. i think every curcynstabce ive ridden, use to use a little 233cc honda cd250u ive had for many years, but eventually turned it into a cafe racer, when i rebuilt it. which is still in progress.

    how ive taught others to ride, and how im teaching my now 5 year old daughter to ride, who loves bikes, shes ridding a little quad bike right now.

    riding on dirt is a skill. smoothness is a must, as traction is limited.

    and if your a dirt person, you need to know and practice how to do all the essential things on your vehicle, in the conditions you ride in, on dirt, u turns, jumping logs like that, i hope people who drive heavy machinery also practice like this, i wonder if their is catapiller gymkhana too.

    should see me to Motokhana, hil lclimbs and Rallycross is a car too ;-)
  9. dredman

    dredman Dirty Moto-Tourist

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    How to create an assessment circle, or "Circle of Trust"
    We use the circle to assess and train new riders. The quickest way to assess deficiencies, and coach new technique, it is much harder to chase someone around a figure eight and tell them what they are doing wrong.
    The repetitive direction and motion helps quickly fine tune the Brake/Throttle/Clutch and Turning techniques they will need to master gymkhana.

    If the rider cannot perform the 24 foot circle, they are not allowed onto the other courses/obstacles.

    Looks really simple until you try it the first time.

    Easy to setup, you can use soda bottles/cans/cups even - so all you need is a parking lot :evil


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  10. Harvey Krumpet

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    Good exercise. Cheers.

    When my G/F started riding we did a similar thing, bigger circle with wider spacing of the balls. When she was comfortable around the outside she went inside. After that it became a slalom, weaving through the balls. Then we got tricky and followed along behind changing the distance between the balls so that each circuit was different, bringing in observation & speed control.
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    Ooh...that sounds like fun. I'll have to give it a try.

    Off-topic: I did it -- I picked up the '77 XS750 last night :clap:clap:clap It's not any lighter than the Wee, nor is it any less powerful, but as it's far from pristine :D I won't be heartbroken if I drop it in a parking lot. It's also not moving again until I replace the tires and get the front brakes working :eek1
  12. Harvey Krumpet

    Harvey Krumpet Long timer

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    And enjun bras. You need somewhere to put your camera.
    I'm jealous. Congrats!:freaky

    Oh, we do the same thing with the off set slalom, wander along behind & change the distance of the off set. Keeps you lookin & thinkin.
  13. Harvey Krumpet

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    Someone very comfortable with their maneuvers..:rofl

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    with a coffee, must also ride a ducati?
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    Or a V-rod...:evil
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    nuggets It's all my fault...

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    I really enjoyed your video, and immediately started to think about how to add some powersliding to my course.

    You guys seemed to enjoy the llast video, so I made another. Spills and mistakes in the beginning, and some better speed around the course toward the end.

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    My tires packed up with mud, and made it extra slippery
  17. Vulfy

    Vulfy Been here awhile

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    Really cool!
    Next step combining off road and pavement to do a supermoto gymkhana.
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    All round conditions a skid pan covered in fat

    send on a small touch screen by a guy with fat fingers
  19. Harvey Krumpet

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    :eek1 This is really tickling my fancy. Obviously the GiF & I spend a bit of time on tarmac but we have also done some trail riding together. She really needs too practice her off road technique, floating the front over obstacles, controlling slides, standing correctly etc. This is just the ticket. By a strange quirk of fate we have just bought a house on a 1 acre section with lots of trees, big drive way, lawns......:evil

    Your putting a lot of effort in nuggets. Love the dropping head & the hang dog moment. Most excellent.
  20. Vulfy

    Vulfy Been here awhile

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    So big kudos to dredman for posting that video of his "circle of trust".
    An excellent exercise!

    I've been doing circles around cones, since I started learning MotoGymkhana, but I never set any boundaries. I just tried the tightest circle possible.

    With a clear border of the circle, drawn with the tennis balls, the game changes completely. Although I was able to fit inside the circle from the start, my bike was wobbly and slow. Had to put my foot down on quite a few occasions.

    It also made crystal clear my problems with the body position as well as arm positioning. Right side turn is MUCH easier for me, and turning left is a real challenge.

    As I started the exercise, I had to use clutch, to slip it, in order to be able to stay in the circle without running wide.


    However after a few hours of just running circles in different directions, it made a very noticeable improvement as well as allowed me to discover A LOT of good as well as bad things about my riding.

    By the end of the day, I was able to do both left and right circles with relative ease, and without use of the clutch. I also got a little bit faster. Initial turns were around 8 seconds for 360 degrees, by the end of the day it dropped to 6 seconds. These are just rough estimates from reviewing my videos.

    I can definitely see where I'm loosing time in GP8 with these turns.

    Really great exercise! Highly recommend setting this up and practicing it.
    Here is a small video of selected runs of the circle. You can see my progression throughout the day.

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    P.S. all the turns you see in the above video are at FULL lock. This exercise really teaches you to manage the balance of the bike with throttle and brake, while its at full lock turn.