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Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Vulfy, May 6, 2012.

  1. Vulfy

    Vulfy Been here awhile

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    So big kudos to dredman for posting that video of his "circle of trust".
    An excellent exercise!

    I've been doing circles around cones, since I started learning MotoGymkhana, but I never set any boundaries. I just tried the tightest circle possible.

    With a clear border of the circle, drawn with the tennis balls, the game changes completely. Although I was able to fit inside the circle from the start, my bike was wobbly and slow. Had to put my foot down on quite a few occasions.

    It also made crystal clear my problems with the body position as well as arm positioning. Right side turn is MUCH easier for me, and turning left is a real challenge.

    As I started the exercise, I had to use clutch, to slip it, in order to be able to stay in the circle without running wide.


    However after a few hours of just running circles in different directions, it made a very noticeable improvement as well as allowed me to discover A LOT of good as well as bad things about my riding.

    By the end of the day, I was able to do both left and right circles with relative ease, and without use of the clutch. I also got a little bit faster. Initial turns were around 8 seconds for 360 degrees, by the end of the day it dropped to 6 seconds. These are just rough estimates from reviewing my videos.

    I can definitely see where I'm loosing time in GP8 with these turns.

    Really great exercise! Highly recommend setting this up and practicing it.
    Here is a small video of selected runs of the circle. You can see my progression throughout the day.

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    P.S. all the turns you see in the above video are at FULL lock. This exercise really teaches you to manage the balance of the bike with throttle and brake, while its at full lock turn.
  2. Harvey Krumpet

    Harvey Krumpet Been here awhile

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    Vulfy, for the lefty, righty thing we all suffer from. Set up a gate 1 mtr wide and do a figure 8 through it, basically two 360's in opposite directions starting & finishing through the gate. It's really, really frustrating, you have to go from lock to lock & it brings a lot of body movement in to play.

    My first attempt......... Be nice. I may have already posted this, if so, soz.

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/KdOmZE8CXxc?list=UUts2l-n8WEFWfaBJAsRizEA&amp;hl=en_US" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
  3. Vulfy

    Vulfy Been here awhile

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    That actually looks really really excellent !
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    Harvey Krumpet Been here awhile

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    Aw shucks. thank you.

    First thing that went through my mind seeing the "circle of trust" was setting up the gate in a circle, just to sharpen things up.
  5. Storm Shadow

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    what are the dimensions of thsi circle?
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    12 mtrs IIR. 6mtrs from centre. Best have a quick look at the vid, though. I have old timers dementia.
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    Vulfy Been here awhile

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    24 foot or 7.3 meter diameter.
    That would be 12 foot radius or 3.6 meters from the center.
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    Harvey Krumpet Been here awhile

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    Phew, thank goodness your here to keep me right.:freaky
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    dredman Dirt Disciple

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    good videos both of you :clap

    Now that we know you guys know what you are doing, let us see how low can you go?

    I bet both of you should be able to go 18 feet/ 5.5 meters?

    Just have to do 2 full circles :eek1

    post them up fellas, at least show us how close you get:lurk
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    Yep i saw it but ran out if data dam prepaid mobile broadband

    send on a small touch screen by a guy with fat fingers
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    Ill be trying this i think shouldnt be too hard since i know in doibg circles at 5 meters

    send on a small touch screen by a guy with fat fingers
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    18 ft circle? 9ft out from center? left & right? I'm in. All of these exercise's complement the whole.
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    WELL incase anybody is wondering, my throttle problems was a radiator overflow hose, that goes from the left radiator, over the engine, to the right lower side where the overflow bottle is. the front throttle linkage which is a lever that is controlled from the throttle cable throttle linkage was grabbing it until it squeezed it out when i forced the grip back.

    as for the weather, yesterday was a great fine sunny day, in the high 20s strong wind, and had dozen of bush fires that were out of control with one of the highest fire danger periods ever seen but...., today, its snowing bucket loads, here, and all over the state, as its spring its rare and it never really snows here anyway, some weird weather.
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  14. Harvey Krumpet

    Harvey Krumpet Been here awhile

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    The bike not costing a fortune to fix is a win in my book. :clap

    That's some photos. You get biblical weather!
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    if only i had a photo of frogs ;-)

    yeah im happy with the throttle, no riding today though with the snow, just pulled the bike appart yesterday, fairings off etc, to find the problem. i would of done work today on the bike, but it was too fricken cold, so stayed inside tow atch dvds all day, have a rear hugger to install too..
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    that's a really good idea. the gate in the middle forces more control. might as well put gates at the apex of the turns too.... stricter control equals more fun.
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    http://youtu.be/8AeN31pUQeo

    funny you mention that, on my grid witches hat, theirs also a drain cap, that is my gate, i stay inside it, and on the otherside, is a raised ramp for wheel chairs, which i must say, when i look at it, i go mighty close to it, guess i gota keep watching teh grid
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    With a bit more practice I'm going to set it up in a fixed area. Hard to say from the video but the whole thing is within 6 - 8 mtrs. The road is 8 mtrs wide....
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    so what have we all been doing, hope this thread isnt dead,

    i just brought my self an ATC9000 Action Cam from Oregon scientific hd with a remote, their bloody cheap compared to teh other gopros etc.