The whole turning in on the front brake shenanigans is what makes my rear pucker, I do it, tentatively. That's how I nearly dropped the dearly beloved DT, huge handful out of the turn & then hard on the front brake... but the front was, er, light, so when the weight came on it dropped like a sack of tatties as I turned the bars. Very, very effective. Very hard for me to get confident with. This is where the tumbles start me thinks. If the Aliens can turn hard on the front brake then surely we can, no? I'm all inspired again Vulfy, cheers! That bloke keeps the front brake on ALL the way through the turn...... Yeah, right, sure. OK.