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Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Vulfy, May 6, 2012.
No need to feel sorry, there's a lot of truth in what you said.
It is 5 laps. Here is the clip on GP8 and how to count laps.
If you guys are under 30 seconds for 5 laps, that is very competitive time for that course. Kudos!
Oops, forgot about you folks down in New Zealand. There was a brave attempt to get things up and running there, but it has all gone very quiet. My old friend Allan Kirk of the Megarider organisation down in New Zealand has always said that getting people to ride the bike rather than just riding the (magnificent) scenery was always a difficult task.
Yup, that's my take on it. I'm from Northumberland originally & lived in Scotland for 12 years, it may be hard to believe but the riding & roads down here knock those fantastic areas into a cocked hat. I'm still pinching myself after 17 years of it.
I was over in Birmingham @ BMW a couple weeks or so ago--Saw ya'll setting up the course and running it -would really be interested in participating and probably would bring a couple more guys from Mississippi with me next time ya'll do a GK
I did not have time to do anything after they got thru working on my bike --had to trailer back to Ms. and see my daughter --she had come home from college and I promised to go out with her and a bunch of friends---
Thought about how much good it would do me and how much I could learn from Ya'll --
Let me know when ya'll gonna do it again
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Sorry for the sound.
A great photo series from the Moto Gymkhana events in Poland.
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Knightwork, you and any one else are welcomed to attend our next event. It will be next spring. The date has not been set yet. I'm sure it will be posted here, on AMGRASS, and Bamarides.
Quick update: To my complete and utter surprise, my DRZ was recovered. Gas tank was banged up, so had to replace it. A few weeks at the local mechanic, finally got her back.
New tires, chain, rear sprocket, brakes.
Took her out for a spin. Hopping between different ergonomics of Triumph and DRZ is a bit of a challenge. New tires didn't provide grip that I could trust yet, as well. Gonna start posting more practice videos on her, weather permitting.
I really want to get to that 30 second mark this season.
Well done Vulfy on getting your bike back. There is no better feeling than when what was lost is found again.
Looking forward to seeing your videos, but isn't it getting a bit cold in NYC now? Cold tyres and slippery surfaces give you a real good workout on those throttle control skills and generally improve your confidence.
Check this out!
My bike won't do Moto Gymkhana is a cry we often hear, so it's always nice to see a rider proving beyond doubt that it doesn't matter what bike you ride, it's how you ride it that counts.
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Woohoo! Glad to hear your ride has been recovered!
Great news Vulfy!
Great vid MGman!
I set up a GP8 course this evening on asphalt and was riding it for a while.
I didn't quite have a proper course as I was using low cones, and had the course laid out in yards(so a little tighter), and was running an extra lap.
This was my first time trying the GP8, and didn't realize how small it is. It is tons of fun, and I was impressed by how much grip I had available.
I'll have to time it and see how I am doing.
I also had setup a cone weave with about 1 foot tall cones 3 yards apart. That turned out to be very challenging. By the end, I was making clean runs at the cone weave without knocking any cones down.
I noticed an unexpected side effect of the gymkhana practice. Once I finished the practice, I did a few wheelies. Post practice, I was getting the wheelies to the balance point easier than usual, and staying there longer.
Funny how skills practice carries over to general improvements.
I had my first "proper" run in ages on Sunday, 100 km's of twisty goodness. Twice. I relished how in control I felt stringing the bends together, the bike felt weightless. Braking, ahem, hard for corners was an exercise in moderation, braking quite hard I knew that I could brake a lot harder. I also found myself using the back brake a lot more to stabilise the bike & scrub off speed into a corner.
I've realised you can learn a lot in a car park.
Thing is, I can't pop a wheelie to save my life. I can loop a bike, though.:huh Rear mudguards quake in my presence.
Bikes like yours and mine aren't really made for popping wheelies. Or at least, I don't *think* the TDM is; I *KNOW* my Wee-Strom isn't Unless you've altered the gearing for a lot more torque, the only way to pop a wheelie on a relatively heavy, relatively low powered bike like most ADV bikes is to rev the engine a bit and dump the clutch. On the other hand, with a modern sport bike, all you have to do is roll on enough throttle in low gear and the front wheel will come up without dumping the clutch, since most of them are massively over-powered.
I've managed to smoothly get the front tire off the ground once or twice on my Wee -- including one absolutely beautiful wheelie on my way to work one morning when a stoplight turned green exactly as I was releasing the clutch while downshifting and preparing to stop (I rolled on full throttle from around 5K RPM just as I dropped the clutch out of the friction zone) -- but it only took a couple of attempts to convince myself that intentionally trying to wheelie the Strom is a good way to embarrass yourself in public
An old timer once told me that it wasn't launching a wheelie that was so much of a problem, it's landing it that counts!
The key to a good wheelie is accelerating at a rate over 1'G' and so long as that is maintained the front will continue to paw the air. Of course a wheelie is as welcome as a thunderstorm at a picnic on a Moto Gymkhana course as it means that all that energy is being wasted picking the front up when it could be driving the bike forward.
Maintaining acceleration at or just below 1'G' is the mark of a true pro and that is why you see them move their upper body weight well forward during the acceleration phase. This moves the entire CofG forward enough to keep the front wheel on the ground. A common mistake (I have made it) is to grab a handful of front brake whilst there is little or no weight on the front wheel which makes the wheel lock almost immediately. Keeping enough weight over the front means that the transition between accelerating and braking can be made as short as possible.