Gymkhana

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Vulfy, May 6, 2012.

  1. dredman

    dredman Dirt Disciple

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    Today's GP8 - semi-spontaneous event, had a great turnout anyway

    I think everyone was surprised at how a simple setup of a few cones could be so much damned fun :happay

    the best times were around 36 seconds

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  2. liquid_ice

    liquid_ice Been here awhile

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    for the GP8, how much space do you use between the cones?
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  3. Vulfy

    Vulfy Been here awhile

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  4. liquid_ice

    liquid_ice Been here awhile

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    thanks for the diagram in the video.

    Are there more sub-parts in gymkhana?

    I know it from riding a course, but the GP8 seems to be a separate thing all together.

    Are there more parts like GP8 for example?
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  5. explain

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    Check following video - it shows different elements of G-course (no dimensions unfortunately)
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  6. explain

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    There was local competition. Here is the course layout used. It's in russian but should be clear. Translations of the sections are below

    dimensions|1st half|2nd half
    _________________________
    start/finish

    and correction - on upper marks there are 540° turns (1½ turns)
    [​IMG]

    Video from that course
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  7. Capt.saveaho

    Capt.saveaho Been here awhile

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    When I first saw the title I though "Oh shit ken block shit on motos". After watching a bunch of these videos I think I want to try this. Where in the bay area are people doing this?
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  8. Vulfy

    Vulfy Been here awhile

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    explain: nice. Was Honda sponsoring that event?

    Capt.saveaho: Maybe somebody from your area will see this post. Right now, the closest we have to some sort of Gymkhana organisation in USA, are Alabama guys over at amgrass.com. So at the moment its more of a "grab a friend, go to your local empty spot" deal. So chances are, you are the first one or one of few, in your area to do this.
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  9. tokyoklahoma

    tokyoklahoma 75%has been 25%wanabe

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    This is exactly what my riding portion of the license test consisted of in 1978.:huh
    But I sure didn't do it that fast.:lol3
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  10. Bill_Z

    Bill_Z Dude! chill,...

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    Good stuff in those videos. Nice to have some examples. I think that was a Burgman or Majesty on the Honda sponsored ride at the very end when the rider passes through the gates to the parking area. I guess this truly is for all bikes.
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  11. liquid_ice

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    great layout, thanks man.
    by the way, Russian always looks cool, haha


    As a balance practice:

    first:
    stand still with bike in gear and one foot on the ground and the other on the pedal.
    Place your foot from the ground on the pedal.
    start driving

    second:
    stand still with bike in neutral and one foot on the ground and the other on the pedal.
    Place your foot from the ground on the pedal, put it in gear and start driving

    third:
    stand still with bike in neutral and two feet on the ground.
    Place both your feet from the ground on the pedal, put it in gear and start driving


    I'm going to use this fairly simple practice at every traffic light (we got a lot of them in the Netherlands ;) )
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  12. Rob.G

    Rob.G Mostly Harmless

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    I just found this thread... wow, cool! I've been interested in this for ages ever since seeing the police competition videos. It's a lot like autocross (SCCA Solo 2), which I've done for about eight years. I would love to get something like this setup here in Reno. I sent in an email to them for info on starting a group so we'll see what hey say.

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  13. Bill_Z

    Bill_Z Dude! chill,...

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    Rob: Do it! I'm organizing here in Kentucky. Slow going to start, but it's great fun.
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  14. Rob.G

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    It won't be hard; the concern I have is funding. I hope AMGRASS has a big group insurance policy we can get in on, because it'll be the largest of the expenses... probably a lot higher than the SCCA insurance since there's a lot more (perceived) room for injury. Guess I'll find out. Then there's the timing system, a trailer to run the event from and store the cones and other stuff, and somebody to manage it all.

    I know it'd be super easy to get going out in the SF Bay Area or SoCal, since there are tons of people there, and in LA you can run year-round. Here in Reno it'll be limited since our warm months are May through October, then it gets cold and potentially snowy.

    The local autocross group (Reno SCCA) runs out of Stead Airport.. we might be able to do that too, so once (if) it gets rolling (no pun intended) I can investigate that too. An upside of this, though, is you can operate in a much smaller space so we might have some in-town options too.

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    Just found this thread. Nice! I did Battletrax once back in the mid-90s when Buell brought it here to Frederick, MD. A local email list used to have practice days with large figure 8s and a set of small circles in a triangle pattern set up by one of the members. Here's a pic of me from back then to give you an idea of the size of the circles:
    [​IMG]

    I can get the specs on the circles if you like.

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  16. Harvey Krumpet

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    Mornin all.

    It appears that my fascination with gymkhana is shared by my better half. I have sent her some of the videos posted in this thread & last night, out of the blue, she said "I really want to do that!" :clap Hehe, I know I'm a lucky man.
    Any hoo, she is a novice, only been riding for a few months & even then sporadically. She is a little challenged in the inside leg department & riding a trail bike. Another lady in almost the same situation (very n00b) is interested too, she is riding a 2ft tall cruiser with the turning circle of the Exxon Valdez & similar ground clearance.
    I want to get the girls into this to develop their skills & confidence but want to keep it fun & safe for them, their reactions are still very considered not natural yet. Things like panic braking pop up in a minor way.....IYKWIM. I really do not want their confidence or their bikes to suffer at this stage.
    I intend to start with figure 8's, slaloms into u-turns etc just like the basic test but would also like to lift the bar a little for them. Speed is not on the radar.
    Any lateral thinkers who could give me some ideas out of the box to get them rolling? I liked the vid that was posted with the wee ramps etc. Good idea or no? Or just stick to bike control, riding position etc...:freaky
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  17. Vulfy

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    I say basic control for now. I highly recommend DVD "Ride like a Pro" for your situation. It is EXTREMELY cheesy, but the guy teaches pretty well, and exactly what they need. I'm very glad I bumped into it a few years ago, I honestly think it made me a better rider overall.
    They will be having just as much fun as in gymkhana, only at the speeds that a new rider will be comfortable with, WHILE getting important skills hones.
    And they will progress much faster.
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  18. Harvey Krumpet

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    Cheers Vulfy.

    That's why I posted, I am not a teacher so all help is good. I may invest in some specific training for them (us) once the ball is rolling. It's amazing how one small tip or pointer can make a big improvement. None of us can remember our young & bullet proof days so it's brains over balls this time around.
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  19. ohgood

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    knobbies help, they keep the bike centered in reality, or at least your mind. a little too much throttle, or a little too much lean, and you feel it. the good thing is it's recoverable, most of the time.

    as far as offroad: i've been playing on some gravel out in front of barber's motorsports park, figure 8's a nutso hard to do in gravel (for me). running an entire course like the one the local guru puts together on DIRT would be a blast ! sliding, washing, wheelies, and lots and lots of dirty backsides.

    when you see a buddy pushing hard around a turn, the suspension working, HIM working (just to stay up) on a big bike, it's very cool. knowing just how freaking slick the pavement is while he's doing it, and how close he is to sliding - another reality check. i'm definitely hooked !
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  20. Reconstructed

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    Got to watch this one. :lurk:lurk