Hack recommendations for '97 Yamaha Seca II

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by Webman, Mar 7, 2018.

  1. Webman

    Webman Been here awhile

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    Hi everyone, I've really enjoyed reading the many threads here about sidecars. I've always wanted to own one, and I'm trying to decide whether it makes sense to add a sidecar to my trusty Seca II, or to get a different bike to add the sidecar to. I have a major soft spot for '86-03 Harley Sportsters, and if I don't hack my Seca, I'd eventually add a sidecar to the Sportster at some point.

    If I was to pursue installing a sidecar on my Seca II, do you have any recommendations? I've looked online, and have only ever seen photos of one; it had a Velorex. I've read the many posts where people on here have major concerns regarding velorex sidecars, so do you have other recommendations, or would a velorex be a good fit for this more moderate-sized bike?

    If it's relevant, my Seca weighs in at about 455 pounds, and I'm another 275 without any gear. The sidecar is for my wife and/or dog. My wife's about 140, and the dog is about 11 pounds!

    Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!
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  2. RetiredandRiding

    RetiredandRiding Retired to Ride

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    I'm NOT an expert on this topic.

    That said, I'm guessing 600cc (I had to look it up, so I hope it's correct) is probably insufficient for carrying 450+ lbs in reasonable comfort.

    Are you thinking of doing the hacking yourself or having someone else (Claude, DMC, et. al.) do it? If the latter, I highly recommend consulting with one or more of the more reputable builders about what tug/car combination is best for you based on what kind of riding you foresee and other things.
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  3. davet2

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    I would recommend the Sportster idea. Freedom sidecars and DMC have done quite a few of them I think. There was a nice Sportster with one of Claude's (Freedom) sidecars on ebay recently but now its gone. I would have been interested in that one myself except for the green paint color. Look at the for sale thread. The Seca is probably not the best choice, you can probably find something already put together that will perform better all loaded up. edit-Here is the Sportster, listing ended, it will probably show up on ebay again, hard to beat the price. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1998-Harle...ash=item362ceb4efa:g:rykAAOSwogpaYK5k&vxp=mtr
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  4. Wolfgang55

    Wolfgang55 Long timer

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    Hey Webman, have you driven a rig before ?

    Not trying to run you off the road to what you want, only suggesting you attempt a contact in your area of an inmate w/ a rig.

    There are a lot of dreams sitting around going no where.
    Nothing wrong w/ having your dream built but there is nothing like actually driving a rig.
    You'll get a better insight of perhaps what is better for you & your needs.

    We have allowed a few riders to take our rig out in a parking lot. If they were still interested then we are on back streets.
    Most declare it was fun but had no clue there was so much difference from a motorcycle.

    Whatever you get best of luck
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  5. jaydmc

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    We always like to go with proper bike specific NOT universal mounts, we have nothing for the Seca so would have to have it in our shop. In general "universal" type mounts which is what a Velorex would come with seldom work out well. My first choice for your bike would be the Kenna we make. My second choice manly based on its price point would be the Russian Sputnik we import. Both can be seen at this link www.dmcsidecars.com/sidecars If you chose to go with the Sportster idea we do have proper bike specific mounts that are included in the price of our sidecars, we also offer steering modifications. My first choice for a Sportster is the Classic however painted up the Sputnik looks good on these as well. In 1998 we purchased a new Sportster as our demo bike for the Sputnik sidecars.
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  6. Webman

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    Thanks for the suggestions, I appreciate them. I haven't driven a sidecar before, but have ridden two different kinds of trikes (can-am and "normal" trike), so I at least understand the difference between steering and counter steering, and how this feels, but I also know that sidecars are totally different beasts.
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  7. Webman

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    Yeah, I saw that one in the fleabay section here. It looks like a good setup, but man... that color!
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  8. Webman

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    Dear Jay:

    Thank you for your response, I really appreciate it. I've been on your site before, and your work looks really good! I have been leaning towards the sportster solution anyway, so your comments reinforce this. I've had my trusty Seca II for ten years now, and while I really like it, it's probably time to move on. Reading your insights makes this decision a little easier. It'll still be awhile before I make the change, as I want to finish some cosmetic work on the old girl first. Thanks again!
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  9. DRONE

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    The Seca has a nice sturdy frame for attaching struts, but to echo others, you'll be disappointed in the ability of a 45hp engine to push a rig down the road. It's not just the weight--there is a lot of air that needs to get out of your way and the wind drag can be fierce. I'd also point out that the brakes on a Seca are somewhat anemic for a rig, and the wheels are kinda skinny for that much of a load.
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  10. Webman

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    I'm sure all of you are right about this, but at the same time, I see people on here with KLR's and even Enfields with lightweight sidecars attached. I'm kicking around the idea of looking for a velorex to mount to my Seca, and then later moving it to the Sportster if/when I get it. I don't see using the Seca for long trips on the highway or anything; heck, I don't use it for that now. I figure if I was to do this, it would be a good way to learn how to drive a hack, and be able to get my wife and dog used to it, too. I'm not an off-road guy, and I tend to ride at a moderate pace already, even more so with my wife around! :)
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  11. ChiliPepperGarage

    ChiliPepperGarage Spork

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    I'd try to find a Sporty hack rig already done to buy. You are usually going to be able to buy a rig already done cheaper than buying a Sportster and then buying a sidecar and putting them together.
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  12. cycleman2

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    Check out the stuff that is always posted for sale on this site. Lots of really good rigs out there and I would think you'd be able to find something that suits your needs.

    Sidecars can be very unforgiving when not put together properly. They are a whole different world and if possible try one out to see if it works for you.
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