had to "lay it down!"

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by GravelRoad, Apr 20, 2011.

  1. cliffy109

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    I made that same point a few pages back. My accident happened so fast that there was little to be done. Looking back, I would have sustained a lot less damage if I had low-sided the thing. Not that I advocate "lay er down" but in that case, it would have been the best option.
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  2. debueller

    debueller Has a thing 4Fungirl

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    LMFAO:rofl

    Sig line material, there.
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  3. Wheedle

    Wheedle I love inflatable fun!

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    I hate people I dont know fucking with my helmet...

    If Im away from the bike it gets locked to the top case by the d-ring. The bike could get knocked over and the helmet wont hit the ground.
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  4. Foot dragger

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    And it signals the start of a true Harley/cruiser bashing thread.
    Not that theres anything wrong with that.

    I HAVE laid it down whilst racing flattrack,no ft brake what so ever.
    You either get good at laying it down or get good at hitting things.
    Its the first thing a speedway rider learns,if you cant lay it down on command you dont get your racing license.
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  5. Foot dragger

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    At age 53 Im considering slowing it down a little,too slow and theres no point to the ride. Ive come close to giant drop away disasters while trail riding but have always skated by the skin of my teeth.
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  6. Foot dragger

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    NO front brake= lay it down or run into things,or high side into a wooden fence.
    Dang I miss doing that kind of stuff.
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  7. lemieuxmc

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    When I was just a kid I learned about the "lay er down" on my bicycle because I too had been unable to stop fast enough a few times. I put a front brake on my Sting Ray that I adapted from a 10 speed after I drilled and spot faced the fork. I was the only kid with that set up.

    Later on my Suzuki TS 90 I really enjoyed demonstrating the power of the front brake by making a point of riding down any hill that I couldn't climb. I would work my way around to the top and take the fall line down, really slowly!
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  8. markk53

    markk53 jack of all trades...

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    Kind of like what one of my Industrial Arts education professors told us...

    "Never demonstrate the wrong way to do something in an effort to tell students what not to do... it might just happen to you."

    I may tell, but I never show. I still have all my fingers intact to this day.
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  9. markk53

    markk53 jack of all trades...

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    Apparently you aren't familiar with at least trying to get a new rider to try to minimize injury?

    If you didn't bother reading, I said if the shop is selling genuine H-D brand helmets they are made by HJC and KBC. Those are worn by professional racers of all types world wide if you don't also realize that. Second, if you can't get a new rider to wear a full face, wouldn't you at least try to get them to wear an open face or a half shell at the least?

    That's what I'm talkin' 'bout.

    As for your helmet, obviously the guy was full of the usual biker lifestyle bullshit. I hope you did get something out of the whole thing, but I have a feeling not. My condolences for your RF1000 and the bike. I'd be pissed too. That's why I seldom set my helmet anywhere that it might fall in a restaurant or on my bike - Murphy's Law and all y'know.
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  10. themenz

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    This guy in Russia decided to lay it down and it kinda worked. At least he was ATGATT.

    Course he ignored the warning guy on the right (7 seconds), took his eyes off the road, passing on the right, etc.

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    Deserved to get his ass kicked by the driver in the wife beater.
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  11. pretbek

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    Compared to what?

    Keeping the throttle pinned until he impacted that truck? Yeah, in that regard laying it down worked.

    But compared to just applying the brakes until he would come to a standstill many paces away from the truck? Hmm, not so much.
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  12. bwalsh

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    Unfortunately I don't have a top case to put it in, and I was only going to be stopped there a few minutes.

    Yes he was full of it.
    I did get something out of it. Long story short, after he insisted on me calling the cops because he thought I was trying to rip him off when I told him how much the helmet cost, he agreed to pay me if I made up a bill for damages and to send my helmet back to Shoei to get checked out. The helmet checked out OK! I tallied up a bill for around $260 for damages to the bike and helmet. He offered $100. I took HER to court and was awarded $360. It helped that the police report mentioned the smell of alcohol on her breath and slurred speech. :evil He/her(IDK:dunno whatever) had their insurance company get involved and they sent me a check for $440! :deal
    It did take four months though...
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  13. slartidbartfast

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    Somebody told me that the British police used to teach that back in the 20's - but by the 30's it was an obsolete technique as front brakes had improved to the point where staying upright and braking was a more effective approach to emergency stopping They continued to teach it for another forty years but it had morphed into more of a "how to crash safely (!)" skill.
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  14. Tuna Helper

    Tuna Helper Rawrr!

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    The last two times I "laid it down" was due to a go kart cutting across in front of me (figure 8 kart races in a friends backyard) and trying to ride beyond my skill level. But, in both cases I was on the brakes and on the bike until the end. IMHO departing yourself from the bike is a big no-no, as you give up any control you have.
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  15. markk53

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    A buddy of mine laid his GT500 Titan down...

    He rode home totally drunk (not recommended), then figured the bike was tired from the long ride (8 miles), so he "had to lay 'er down" in the barn - covered it with a blanket too... Kids! What are ya gonna do?
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  16. xcgates

    xcgates Whaaa?

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    Hey, at least he had the sense and decency to use a blanket!

    I don't know how many times I've woken up on a floor without any form of blanket or anything.:umph
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  17. PT Rider

    PT Rider Been here awhile

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  18. lonesoldier84

    lonesoldier84 SuperFlanker

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    This reminds me of the quote by Otto von Bismarck: 'Preventive war is like committing suicide out of fear of death.'
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  19. RideAbout

    RideAbout Mentally Retired

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    Stereotypes are created when people live up to the stereotype.

    I've had the "lay r' down" conversation with dozens of riders over my 45 years of riding. It always seemed to be long term Harley riders making that statement. Not my fault they are perpetuating the stereotype.
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  20. DAKEZ

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    Moments ago I was watching Fox news...They showed a video clip of a rider being hauled off on a strecher. It looked like he had been under a semi-trailer in the crash.

    Jon Scott: "Well let&#8217;s hope that rider is OK&#8230;When you go to motorcycle school you are taught to sometimes lay the bike down to lesson the impact of a collision..."

    :becca..................................:baldy

    Send him an e-mail and tell him what you think. Address it to Jon Scott: happeningnow@foxnews.com