Halvarssons Safety Jacket - First Impressions (long, lots and lots of pics)

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by makinwaves, Feb 25, 2007.

  1. Flyinguy

    Flyinguy Been here awhile

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    Thanks JTT. Most of my riding is commuting, so I like the overpants style so I don't have to change at the office. I really like the looks of the jacket though.
  2. JTT

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    I commonly use my Darien pants with my Safety Suit jacket for day to day use. It makes a good combination that will handle most situations. I only use the SS pants on extended tours.
  3. K0m4

    K0m4 Been here awhile

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    Bought the safety suit based on this thread mainly - level 2. Big thanks - threw my bike down the road today. Landed on my knee and elbow at something like 60-80 km/h and slid for a while, and the suit made sure that all I hurt was my pride. Absolutely excellent gear, and if it can't be repaired i'll buy another one. Actually I'm not sure I'd wear another brand after this. I know, it's anecdotal, but that's the feeling I have and that's as important when sitting on the bike.
  4. pebble35

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    It's never nice to read about a biker parting company with their machine but it's always good to hear the rider is unhurt.

    Do you have any pictures of the kit and how it stood up to the crash ?

    What size jacket/trousers did you have - the level 2 kit is now pretty much discontinued but we have some jackets and one or two pairs of pants in stock. Let me know your size and I will see what can be done !
  5. K0m4

    K0m4 Been here awhile

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    Mate, thanks. No pics as yet, but I'll take some tomorrow. As I recall I've got size 52 (although while suiting up today I noticed that's for up to 184 cm - I've got another two..). The outer jacket and pants are shot, so I'll need those for sure. Maybe also the safety pants, but I'll take a couple of pics. Pretty sure the jacket made it almost without harm.

    Do you happen to have the old version of the water proof high-vis jacket? The one that's not all yellow? Looks a lot better..
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    I will take a look at work tomorrow and get back to you :D
  7. ranmafan

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    Been reading this thread with much interest.

    One thing that I'm still curious about, however...

    Is there much advantage to using Halvarssons outer jacket shells - compared to, say, a high-end rain jacket with some vents?

    I understand that you'd lose some abrasion resistance. But are all those zippers/velcro really necessary for the outer jacket?
  8. makinwaves

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    Very glad to hear you are unhurt! That's the best news. :clap

    Add me to the list of wanting to hear and see more details of how the gear performed. You might want to check with Jofama directly as I'm pretty sure they have an in-house repair shop. I hope if/when I need new gear I can score another level 2 suit. I almost want to buy another set and put it in the closet until that day.
  9. makinwaves

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    The biggest advantage is probably that they're specifically designed for the safety layer, meaning you won't have excess material or restricted movement if you use something different. Not sure what you mean about all those zippers/velcro....is it any more than other gear?
  10. ranmafan

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    Oh, I mean the attachment points for the outer layer.

    ...I suppose that was a silly question. I'm just hoping for an outer shell that packs small, is "waterproof" :wink:/breathable, has vents that can be opened at a stoplight, and doesn't look outlandish when worn by itself off-bike.
  11. K0m4

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    HAd a look again this morning. The gear looks great - considering. The only thing that's really ripped is the strip of fabric that runs over the loops themselves (well, aside from the shells of course). The HiArt material seems to have made it almost completely without damage.

    The more I think back to the impact, the more I'm amazed at how the protectors worked. While never having crashed before, I at least expected some bruising from an impact, but I have nothing except a tiny bluemark where the edge of the elbow pad was. Nothing on my knee, which bore the brunt of my fall.

    Took some pics, but sitting on a friend's mac i can't for the life of me figure out how to compress them to get them to my photobucket... I'll edit this post to add pics later once I can figure it out.
  12. JTT

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    Glad to hear your OK KOm4.

    ranmafan, you could use just about anything as the outer jacket as far as I can tell. The armour and abrasion protection is all built into the safety suit itself, the outer is just wrapping paper. That said, the Cyclone outer is very nice looking IMO as are most of the others really. The zips that attach the outer are small, light zips and not at all an encumbrance, unlike many out there (my Darien is a good example).

    Also whatever they use for a waterproof membrane seems to work, as I've ridden for hours in frog-strangling downpours (hurricane in fact) and remained dry and comfy. If you asking, "could one put a Klim or other mega $$ rain jacket over the safety suit?", the answer is yes.
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    Just log onto photobucket from his Mac and upload them. PB is Mac friendly :1drink
  14. K0m4

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    Yeah, but my pb account isn't megabyte-friendly :) don't want to clog it up with 1,5 mb pics when they show up just as fine at 400k online.. That way i can put many more pics up until the free account is full :clap
  15. levain

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    You guys are giving me a little sellers remorse:lol3:lol3:lol3

    I always thought something like a Klim Valdez or a Darien light over the safety inner would be great. Huge pit vents. rear vent. Reflective. Goretex shell. I'm sure a smart seamstress could install zippers on the Valdez to zip the inner in. To me, that'd be the biggest issue. Not being able to zip it in.

    I considered modding the safety to be able to zip into a darien jacket using the Dariens liner zippers. Aerostich even sent me a kit to do it happily. Just didn't get around to it. The zippers on the safety inner look to be pretty standard. I'm thinking someone with a well stocked moto shop could go in and possibly match them up. Motoport uses the same on their liner for example. They don't line up, but they zip up.
  16. ranmafan

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    Thanks, great to know.

    I assume you meant "Cyklop"? I agree, it's does look pretty fashionable. Though it seems like the current lineup is down to Halogen/Halogen mesh and high-viz...
  17. K0m4

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    Here are the pics of the gear.

    Knee of safety pant:
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    same from the side:
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    With the shell pant:
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    Elbow safety jacket:
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    Arm of shell:
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    So, that's the result. I'm not sure at which speed I got off, but I guesstimated it to 60-80 km/h when the cops asked. The bike sort of highsided with the front, so I was spit off upwards and slammed pretty good into the tarmac. Not sure how far I slid and rolled. The damage: a tiny bruise on my elbow, and today I've been a bit tender in the muscle on top of my arm. Nothing in my leg, nor in my shoulder.

    I called Jofama today (being Swedish I could even understand their accent :lol3). They said send pics to the repair dept and we'll see what can be done. To be honest, I'm not sure anything needs to be done. Amazing gear anyway, and I told them so.
  18. JTT

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    Yes, sorry. That's the one I have, as well as an all black mesh outer. Biker-land still shows them available.

    Great pics! Looks like the safety suit was barely scratched, although the outer tells a little of the tale of how hard you hit!
  19. AceRider01

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    Hi K0M4,

    First of all glad u are okay - highside at 60-80km/hr is not a small crash - the impact from a highside can be quite nasty. While the halvarssons' abrasion resistance is undoubtedly top level - its impact protectors would be considered no longer the best in the industry. The fact you have no broken bones is therefore very good news.

    Second, thanks for taking the time to post the pics - it does give a good indication of how the Hi-Art material reacts with road contacts. I have always wondered what the stitching is like under that strip of fabrics that covers it.

    It appears at where the impact points some of Hi-art materials is lost - one of the picture seem to show a patch being a fair lower than the pile of materials next to it - of course this could be just the camera playing tricks. - if not too much trouble, could you have another look of the impact area and estimate how much of the loop materials have been lost compare to the surrounding. Was any of the stitching (holding the hi-art materials) in the exposed area broken - it almost appear to be none on the picture.

    thanks again for all the inputs
  20. K0m4

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    You're right, some of the material is lost at the impact point on the knee. If you look at the "from the side" pic, you see some fabric "standing up" - this would be what used to be loops, as well as that fabric strip covering the seams. I'd estimate that at about 3-4 cm long and .5-1 cm wide, and it's right on top of the protector. On the arm, there is barely a visible sign of impact - you see the area in the pic, but irl it really looks less. No loops that even gave up. On the shoulder I didn't even take a pic, you can't see anything except the shell being torn.

    The stitching held. Fully. Not a single part of a thread let go. I don't know which protectors could have done a better job to be honest, but I'm sure the development moves fwd - what are these, three or four years old or so? All I can say is the protectors made me barely feel the impact.

    Overall, I am highly impressed with this gear. I never had a crash before, so I wouldn't know how it holds up compared to good leather, but obviously if I can just stand up after a crash like that (mad as a bee...) without even a rash or feeling beat up, either I got really lucky, or the gear worked great. Probably it's a combo.