Hannigan Lights

Discussion in 'Airheads' started by Bill Harris, Aug 11, 2012.

  1. Bill Harris

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    I'm leaning towards upgrading from my 40 year old Vetter to a Hannigan fairing. I have two auxillary low beams and two auxillary high beams mounted to the Vetter fairing bracket. The yellow rod between the lamps marks the approximate location of the fairing cross-piece that mounts to the frame.

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    I want to do a similar lamp mounting arrangement on the Hannigan. This is a marked-up Hannigan frame bracket. The yellow line is about the same position as the lamps on the Vetter bracket. On the Hannigan there is enough room to separate the low-beam and high beam lamps-- the low-beams would fit on a tabs an the yellow line and the high beams would fit on mounting tabs at the mid-point (the red line) or at the top (blue line).

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    Here is a P'Shop'd mockup showing the relative positioning of the lamps on the Hannigan vs the old Vetter:

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    so I think everything will fit OK.

    Of course this is just the initial digital trial-and-error and the details will be worked out once I get the new mounting bracket fitted.

    How are you mounting extra lamps with your fairing?
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  2. disston

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    I have a Hannigan but I have never added lights to it Bill. Now you got me wanting to catch up. I just got the turn signals working this year. :freaky
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  3. Canuman

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    I put a Hannigan on my K75 earlier this year. I purchased an aftermarket HID kit for it (Hannigan charges WAY too much for their HID kit). I've got two little "conspicuity" lights on the bottom of the fairing, but haven't missed aux lights one bit. The fairing with the HID is enormously bright, and a real pleasure to ride at night. There's plenty of room for a nice, sanitary installation.

    Somewhat poor pic:

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    My signals work just fine, and I replaced those ugly mirrors with Napoleons.
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    HID is OK, but I'm a traditional Halogen guy. I've used Euro-spec H4 headlights on the bike (and most of my cars) since the '70's and performance has been flawless. No mysteries there.

    The Hella FF50 fog lamps are excellent auxillary low beams. I have two fog lamps with a sharp cutoff aimed/oriented to simulate the Euro spec "right side flare" and they put a lot of light on the road shoulders (an into deer's eyes) without glaring at oncoming traffic.

    The Hella FF50 driving lights are tight pencil-beams and are aimed in an overlapping pattern that gives the "tunnel of light" effect. The driving lights are wired to come on only on high-beam, and the auxillary low beam lamps come on only on low-beam (and can be turned off entirely).

    I have the lamps mounted on the fairing frame because I mount the fairing in a rubber sandwich to minimize stress and vibration and it tends to "jiggle". And I have the switching relays and fuse mounted on the fairing frame, which makes for a unitized assembly. The dual horns are also mounted on the fairing frame.

    I'll continue the discussion of adding lighting as I do that work. There are still a lot of details I have yet to uncover.

    Been meaning to ask: what is the width of the body of the Hannigan? Or more importantly, what is the outside width of the mirrors? The Windjammer is right at 33" wide. I park the R60 in my shop, which has a 35" metal door (no "garage door" setup). If the Hannigan is wider, I'll have to upgrade the door...

    Canuman, is your Hannigan an SS or an ST model? I'm debating between the two, though I lean towards the larger storage of the ST.
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    Mine is the ST model, which is almost exactly the width of the bars on the K75: 27" (This is without mirrors on the fairing.) You could get it through a 35" door, but it would not leave much room for you. I suppose you have a technique figured out, though. The supplied mirrors would be no problem to flip in. See note below, however.

    I chose the ST for its greater storage and weather protection. I previously had an old GT that was mounted to an airhead. It didn't look bad at all, but for summer conditions it was simply too much fairing for the K75. The 75 tends to cook its rider a bit more than an airhead. On the other hand, the SS fairing offers little more protection than the Rennsport fairing. It seems that the ST is an excellent compromise.

    A few things to note -- which I'm going to mention to Jerry at Hannigan at some point:

    The supplied mirrors are utter crap. I couldn't get them to hold position no matter how much I tweaked them. The new model of wind deflector that mounts atop the windscreen isn't very good either. I tweaked on mine for a bit, and finally gave up.

    Hannigan, however, is an excellent outfit to deal with. The quality of the fiberglass is excellent, the fit and finish is nice, and the gel coat is as good as I've seen. I think the look of the fairing compliments the older BMWs very nicely.
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    Good, it'll fit through that doorway, then. I've thought about improving that door arrangement for the last 6-7 years, maybe I'll do that it anyway.

    If the supplied mirrors are a problem, I'll discuss that with Hannigan once they get back from their Summer holiday. What alternative mirror brands are available? I see a variety of mirrors on photos of the fairings, I don't know of people upgrade a lot or if Hannigan uses different suppliers over time. I'm still using the original short stalk BMW mirrors, so this will be new territory...
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    Not sure if you have thought about going the crash bar option and installing some lights there Bill. I am really liking having a set of lights at that level because it gives me a good vision for road kill here . Only one thing worst than hitting a roo jumping across the road is running over a dead one one. But I should think myself lucky hat we don't have wombats in my neck of the woods. Those little F$#kers can roll a truck if you hit them the wrong way.
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    Opening post: the first photo and righthand bike in the third photo is mine. The crashbar is occupied by amber LED daytime running lights. Thought about it at one time, went to Plan B. I prefer to have the lights higher than the crashbar, it gets them above the level of saltating debris... :D
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    Ahhh salt & snow ... don't really have an issue with that here . This week was our coldest week of the year so far .. got down to -2C ... even had to deal with ice on the windscreen ( well the wipers had to ... no scrapping it off like I have done when I was in USA ) ... and some ppl will bitch about that cold for 6 months until it hits 43C again.
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    Did some digging. The fairing mirrors shown on Canuman's ST fairing are probably Emgo mirrors. There aren't but a handful of aftermarket mirrors of that style available. I'll ask around, but maybe the solution will be for a manufacturer's OEM-style mirror. For example, BMW R100RS mirrors, with a mirror extension.

    Except for Skull or Skeleton Hand chromed mirrors, this is not a big item with the technogeeks... :huh

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  11. Canuman

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    They are Emgo. They are pretty useless. If you're ordering the fairing from Hannigan new, you can ask them to not drill for mirrors, and put on whatever you wish. No Maltese crosses, please.
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    My Hannigan fairing is from 1982. It is an older ST. Made before Jerry and company bought the fairing molds. I have compared it to the more modern ones and it appears the same to me in all features. And the same weight fiberglass.

    I don't know who made the mirrors I have but they work OK. This style mirror used to be rather common and you could buy them from JC Whitney for 6 or 7 bucks a pair. OK, That was back in the 60's maybe. I have checked several times on Ebay for this kind of flat mounted mirror and have so far not found any that would work on a flat surface. So very interested if anybody else finds anything?

    I have a set of driving lights made by Hella they are model 1500 Optilux. They use a 55W H3 bulb and are a solid construction. They come as a kit with wiring and fuse and switch and a relay. This kit was dirt cheap many years ago and may now be obsolete.

    So my question is why does everybody mount driving lights on a bar? I have plenty of room just below the main headlight and a little outboard of the main light by attaching the driving lights to the fiberglass of the fairing. I don't think this will crack the fiberglass or am I wrong about that.

    I think I bought this driving light set 7 or 8 years ago. And now I have to mount them because you started this Bill.
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  13. Canuman

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    I had considered mounting some aux lights on the bottom of my fairing. There's a large, flat area which would be ideal. The fiberglass is plenty beefy to support a light. If I had any worries, I'd reinforce it with a fender washer or thin steel backing plate. It would make the wiring a lot simpler and more sanitary, also, as well as protecting it from the weather.
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    I am new to the forum ,I have a monoshock bmw with a Hannigan fairing which has mirrors I like very much. I think they are off an early 80's volkswagon Jetta or Rabbit . I don't know how to insert an image yet showing the fairing with mirrors.
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    That would be the way to go. Ask Jerry not to drill the fairing, and put on the mirrors of your choice. Mine were Kenn Sean "Napoleon" bar-end copies which work very well. As I've said, this is an extremely high-quality fairing. Jerry is a serious rider. If you make your desires known, the folks at Hannigan will do their best to accommodate them. Hannigan is a small company in a small town. That counts.
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    And this is the quandry. There may be a problem with Emgo mirrors, but they may be the best game in town short of going to an (unknown) OEM mirror. I've heard the "VW, Rabbit-Jetta" mirrors mentioned, but OEM mirrors for an out of production, 25 year old vehicle are probably NLA and who knows what the aftermarket mirrors are like.

    A minor problem but major in the long run. This is the time to deal with it.

    I considered just mounting the auxillary lamps on that flat surface on the lower side of the fairing. But that was not an option with the v-shaped Vetter and mounting the lamps on the fairing bracket has worked well for several years. The downside is that lamps mounted on the bottom would be prone to being bumped when the fairing is removed and set down (not that often, but when it is removed it tends to be a large cumbersome piece that needs to be set somewhere).

    Again, another of the details that need to be worked out. Ain't it fun...
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    If you want, I can send you the Emgo mirrors I took off so you can examine them. I certainly won't need them. They would fit in a flat-rate box and ship for a reasonable fee. If you like them, you're welcome to keep them for spares.
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    I edited my earlier post to include photos of my hannigan with the VW mirrors. Hope it helps
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    That is one beautiful bike, Capt'n. I see what you mean by the VW mirrors.

    Thanks for sharing the pics.


    Canuman-- sure, I'll take them. Check you PMs...
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  20. Canuman

    Canuman Crusty & Unobliging

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    That is a beautiful bike. A quick check of JC Whitney (no, I never shop with them, they were merely convenient) shows several similar styles. These are nearly identical to the mirrors that were on my old Hannigan GT fairing.

    I got your pm. Mirrors will be on the way this week.
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