Hannigan sidecar Questions

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  1. KLR 650 guy

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    Are you from Middleburg Pen .. As there is a freedom sidecars in Middleburg .....


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  2. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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    That is us yes :D
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  3. airheadDan

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    Well I bought the Hannigan I was looking at. $3400. Electric lean, both top and tonou cover,power outlet, etc. Now I'm looking for the right bike to use as a tug. I'm thinking K1200 GT or RS. I think the riding position of the GT would be better for my 62 year old body,but peg lowering and handlebar raising kits are available for the RS. I like the telelever front suspension on the 1200 a it has some designed in anti-dive. Does anyone make a trail reducing kit for this bike? Older K's 100's and 1100's are an option as well. I spoke to Hannigan about this and surprisingly they have never done either the k100 or 1100 so there would be aditional charges as they would need to design new mounts. another option is the Honda ST 1100/1300. I like the bullet proof reputation of these two, but I am pluged in to the BMW comunity so this would be stepping out of my comfort zone. This will be my first sidecar so my plan is to start out with a baisicly stock bike until I learn to drive it and then if I find I don't like sidecars to sell the rig either together or as separate units. If I decide I like this I would gradually modify the bike to make it a dedicated sidecar tug. Trail reduction, car tires and suspension modifications. I welcome any suggestions. Thanks, Dan
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  4. Bobmws

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    You got a good deal on that car.
    I went with the LSL superbike handlebar kit from Spiegler on my K12RS, I made alot of difference, much more than you would gain with the GT bar position. Hannigan offers a steerite trail reducer for that series. Look here to see what modifications I have done to my RS. Some pics in that thread, lots more on my photobucket page.
    You can't go wrong with a 130 hp tug! :D
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  5. FR700

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    I've had an ST1100 with a chair. A very relaxing combination to ride. The frame would rival the Golden Gate bridge. Good fuel range standard and very good mpg with a chair.

    If it has a downside, it would be the somewhat tall first gear. If I was to build a highway-forest service road rig it would get the nod over an older K100/1100, no question.


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  6. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    I would follow Bobs lead in road sidecars the K1200's are plentiful have decent if not exciting power and trail reduction is easy not to mention the original brick is way overbuilt and with reasonable care will work for a long time.DB
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  7. Montague

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    [/QUOTE]I covered the fender/entry area with clear protective film to save shoe & dog scuffs. also did the inside rim of the cover to protect from the dogs.[/QUOTE]

    +1 on the film, we bought some for our Hannigan Super Sport, just way too easy to drag a foot getting in or out and marking up that beautiful black paint job.

    $1800 used was an incredible price but ~$4K is probably normal for something in really good condition.
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  8. airheadDan

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    Bob, Thanks for the info on the handlebar kit This looks like just what I would need. I do have a question about the subframe. Since the engine on the k1200 is rubber mounted and there are no frame members under the engine is the subframe attached to the engine? If this is so it seems that would put undue stress on the rubber mounts, not to mention the effect on handling. I haven't found a bike yet, but there is one at a dealership near Millwaukee that I plan to look at. Too cold for a test ride, so I don't think I'll be making them an offer today. Anything I should look for? What are the weak points on the K12? are you still running the car tire on the stock rear wheel? Thanks, Dan
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  9. Montague

    Montague UDF Adventurer

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    I hooked my ST1300 to a Hannigan and we are delighted with it. The shop owner said it was the nicest handling combo he has ever worked on.
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  10. Bobmws

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    Hi Dan,
    This is one of the better deals I've seen lately: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=952142&highlight=K1200RS The most common K issue is the rear main seal leaking, look for weeping at the tranny case junction.
    Some of the earlier '98 models had some leaks at the clutch slave cylinder, I think it was an o-ring issue, I'd wager most have been repaired or updated at this point.
    The earlier pre 2002 bikes will work just as well, same frame, no whizzy brakes. I do like the power whizzy brakes on mine, some don't.
    No issues with the subframe, there are multiple attachment points braced to both sides of the bike.
    Rear upper mount here:
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    Lower mount attaches form the rear upper mount, is braced in the middle to the centerstand:
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    Front of the lower mount bolts to the bottom of the motor and has a brace that goes under neath to the other side of the motor, and goes up to the top motor mount for the front upper attachment point:
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    No issues with handling, this setup is very rigid.
    I just ordered an adapter and 15" wheel from Claude, for 2 reasons. First, the 17" Yokohama tire is the ONLY tire in this size in the country, should I have a total failure on the road I would most likely have to wait around to locate one, or use a bike tire. It was also a screaming bitch to mount, and the tire places won't touch a bike rim, nor will the bike shops mount a car tire! The euros & Aussies have a better selection of 17" tires that would work, but they are unavailable here.
    This tire was also shorter than the bike tire, resulting in a 10% high speedo and 5% high odometer. The selection of 15" tires will put me back at the right diameter,
    The 130HP K doesn't need the advantage of lower gearing from a shorter tire!
    Hope this helps. :lol3
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  11. davebig

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    Bob
    Is that Hannigans sub frame hardware ? High of 3 here tomorrow :cry Wish you where here :lol3 DB
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  12. airheadDan

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    Thanks Bob, I'm going to look at a K12 RS near Millwaukee tomorrow. I wish I had known about the one in Memphis while I was down there on Saturday. I picked up the sidecar in Collierville Tn.
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  13. GHO100

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    I have an 87 K75 with a hannigan, let me know if you have any specific questions
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  14. Bobmws

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    Yes, that was the install at Hannigan's shop.
    Quoting Jimmy Buffet? "I wish you were here, the weather is beautiful."
    83 here yesterday afternoon.......
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  15. davebig

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    Oh damn you Bob -1 as I post this lol
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  16. airheadDan

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    Bob, I had forgotten about the servo brakes. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like them on a solo bike, but they would probably be good with a sidecar. The main disadvantage I can see is the need to take it to the dealer to bleed the brakes. The nearest dealer to me is an hour away and I don't realy trust their service dept. I belive the Jimmy Buffet quote is: "The weather is here I wish you were beautiful" The weather is definitely here! below zero for the next 3 nights. Dan
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  17. davebig

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    They are not that hard go bleed but it is tedious about everyother year is all that's necessary.db
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  18. Bobmws

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    Dan, you're correct on the Buffet quote, hey I'm a sidecar guy, we get things backwards all the time! :huh
    Like Dave said, the brakes are time consuming but doable. The K12RS site has a pictorial how to here.
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  19. airheadDan

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    I went to Mukwonago, Wi. today to look at the 2000 K12RS They have 23K miles bar backs and peg lowering kit looks ok some scratches, front tire toast, rear 75% stock seat with cracked vinyl, heated grips and a Throttlemiester which did not work (possibly just needs to be adjusted) asking 4,999 I think this is too much, it is silver/blue two tone and the silver may be a match for the sidecar. sure wish I could have gone for a test drive. It would have involved taking 8 to 10 bikes out of the showroom to get at this one and it's way too cold anyway. It has to warm up someday doesn't it? Dan
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