Harley-Davidson HD sales continue decelerate in 2017

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  1. TheProphet

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    Must be the angle of the photo, but man that side car rig looks bigger than the bike! More like a boat than a sidecar.

    When I get old and feeble :eekers, I'm definitely thinking sidecar Vs. a trike. No particular reason why, other than you could pack a lot of stuff in that sidecar on a run to Home Depot, or better yet on a cross country run. :-)
  2. 2tallnwide

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    They are pretty big, although I'm sure the angle didn't help any, that rig looked pretty good in person. In fact they look better with the sidecar attached to me. :augie

    We ride with a couple guys that have trikes occasionally. Until then I never even contemplated one but have softened up a little on the idea. Like you would I would more than likely try a sidecar first. Mainly because I'd probably already have the bike, and a side car would be a lot cheaper than buying one of those $40K + trikes. :D
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    The wife has already told me that there was "No way" she would ever sit in a sidecar. That said, she can still ride pillion, and again, imagine all the stuff you could pack in that rig! I'm thinking too that maybe once I could convince her to give the sidecar a go, she'd might really enjoy it.

    By the way... is there such a thing as a "quick release" pin for a sidecar? :lol3
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    Only in the movies...damnit! :augie

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    Yes. I remember a Laurel and Hardy movie where Laurel was riding the bike, with Hardy in the sidecar. As they were going along, Laurel became overly curious of the function of the Large "Pin", and pulled it out. Good times. :doh
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  6. liberpolly

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    Simple solution -s +1 motorcycle. At least that's my plan. Those art deco Indian sidecars look oddly appealing. There's local one from 1948:

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  7. TheProphet

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    I like THIS sidecar. Pretty cool.

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    Some of the new ones are styled after the old ones as well.

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    Always enjoy seeing ones like these at the Vintage Festival.... :thumb

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    Oh heck yeah! :D

  9. e.t.

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    My first thought was you raced moto. Then I forgot about off road/desert. The only four stroke I saw racing in the 80's around here was when Barry Higgins showed up on one of the early Rotax powered KTM's and diced it up with the open class two strokes including the Maicos he sold. He had to have been in his forties then. He was the guy around here that could ride anything, and did. And fast.

    I had no clue CZ attempted a comeback back in the late 80's.
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    It's the opposite, the old ones were styled to be in the future, remember? Hahaha! I'll admit, those are neat looking sidecars.
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    Some time in the next five years, A Watsonian Squire Meteor, they have a mounting kit for late Dyna Glides. The Brooklands screen is just too cool... Woot


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  12. IMAWILDPARTY

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    I got my first bike, a Virago 250, when I was 21. I thought I was pretty cool. I still think I was pretty cool. Motorcycles are old-man magnets, not chick-magnets. Unless by chicks you mean the old ladies that come up to tell you about the horrible wreck their son was in.

    BTW, I paid $1600 in insurance on that 250 in my first year(more than half of what I paid for the bike), and that's strictly liability insurance, no damage/theft/etc. Granted, I live in Ontario which probably has the highest rates on the continent, but that sort of thing dissuades a lot of young people from buying bikes, at least around here. Then, there's the question of space, which also affects how pleasant it is to wrench on the things.

    Around here, I'd agree with the notion that most young people don't "get" biking. It's loud, it's uncomfortable, it's wet, it's hot, it's cold etc.

    Money is a huge factor for those that would like to give it a shot.
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  13. liberpolly

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    Then there's this: https://www.tiltingmotorworks.com/

    They're local here.
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    I stopped by the local Harley shop today and saw something I hadn't seen in a Harley shop in years - several brand new non current big twins.
    Still can't get past the prices on the '17 touring bikes. All from $25K to $30K after the $465 freight and $1200 dealer added fees, but before taxes, etc. Lot of money.
    I didn't see any of the Street line up in there, though I have in the past.
  15. hyena

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    The Harley Freewheeler MSRP's for $26K. (Still a lot of coin.) My riding buddy bought one. He had always said when he no longer felt comfortable on two wheels, he would give it up before buying a trike. But then when he DID no longer feel comfortable (due to age), he caved in and bought the first Freewheeler at his dealership. What surprises me is he gets 40+ MPG. I took it for one quick spin around the block. Takes some getting used to.
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    Barry Higgins, America's first factory rider, and the state of Pro Motocross circa 1969
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    I just blew away the three paragraphs of history with the CZ with a bad keystroke, it was the little bike that couldn't... If anyone runs across S/N's 001 or 002 I would love to know where they're at as these are true pre-production prototypes. If you want more details see the November 1991 issue of Motocross Action Magazine. it was a slaughter... I did the prep for the MXA magazine bike, it was a full production version.
    The bike was flawed in many ways. CZ was as good as dead at that point.
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    I also prepped the Typ. 514 CZ 400 test bike for Cycle World magazine, at least no one bitched about the jetting. you can read the test here...

    https://books.google.com/books?id=e...nepage&q=1991 cycle world cz 400 test&f=false

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    Hmmm it's a good time for more scotch...
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  18. Still Ugly

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    Side hacks are a blast to ride. Had a Ural Deco Classic for several years and it was a great grocery getter. It was my all weather bike and though it was only one wheel drive, it plowed through snow, wet and dry sand, mud, and the neighbors yard with a knobby on it! Only got stuck once when I high centered it on an active train track. That sucked as its one heavy rig.

    For some reason it always wanted to do donuts!
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    FWIW, I'm thinking that for say a 600 Lb. + motorcycle with a sidecar rig, you would need a reverse gear set-up?

    Otherwise you better park facing downhill all the time... realistically improbable.
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    Reverse gear is easy for The Harley-Davidson 6 speed, a few people make them, Baker makes one of the best, with a very low ratio crawler reverse, for about 2K.

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