Harley rider gives GS rider some riding " tips"

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by theshnizzle, Jul 6, 2013.

  1. DGraham

    DGraham Been here awhile

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    Don't get me wrong, I absolutely HATE loud pipes. Harley riders in general have rubbed me the wrong way way more often than not, but I won't say I hate them just yet. But the mockery of this mantra just keeps coming up lately and I've been thinking about it.

    The other day, I was driving (car) along the hwy and before I even looked in my rear view, I heard a rider with his loud pipes coming up. If he was in my blind spot, I certainly would have known he was there. Annoying as all hell, but I would have known.

    I'm also not denying that the 'real' reason they do the loud pipes thing is because they are macho, cool etc... But is it not reasonable to say they probably have saved a life or two? It would certainly be less likely to notice me on my quiet bike, would it not? I would think I would definitely notice them approaching from behind before I would you or I in our reflective gear.

    Excuse the naiveté. If I'm missing something, fill me in. I'm perfectly willing to accept your side as I'm already leaning towards animosity. :ear
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  2. Benduro

    Benduro It's been handled.™

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    I hear ya, but.... Being situationally aware enough not to be riding in a cage's blind spot, negates the "need" for loud pipes...
    Right?
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  3. Ceri JC

    Ceri JC UK GSer

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    I knew this was going to be good from the thread title alone. :)
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  4. Navy Chief

    Navy Chief Long timer

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    +1
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  5. concours

    concours WFO for 44 years

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    It hit me last night, following a douche bag on a bagger, with missus douche bag on the back... And he hacked a clam knowing I was behind him ( 200 yds. at 35) . While all the people that own Harleys may not be assholes, they INSTANTLY TRANSFORM when they swing a leg over it. Everyday folks trying to act like BAD ASS OUTLAWS. :norton

    "If loud pipes save lives, just imagine how safe you'd be if you learned how to ride that thing"
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  6. GapRunr

    GapRunr Been here awhile

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    I was stopped at a light next to a guy on an HD full dresser. He pulled up next to me at the light so that we were now sharing the lane. I nodded and said "Hi". He scowled and looked away. When the light turned green I pulled away and he pulled away right behind me. A mile or so later he pulled up next to me at the next light, but this time came right up next to me. When I looked over he said "You're lifting your feet up too soon. If you lift them too soon you won't have any balance until you get up to speed".

    :eek1

    I was too stunned to reply.
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  7. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    :fpalm

    I just don't understand these guys. Where are they "learning" this stuff?
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  8. klaviator

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    Quick, someone needs to inform all those trials riders out there that they are doing it all wrong:rofl:rofl
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  9. jules083

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    I'll try to keep this short:

    I have stock mufflers on my Road King. One day I was at a gas station getting ready to leave and a mother got out of a car with her young (5 ish?) daughter. The mom hurried up and covered her daughters ears when I started the bike. Once the bike started she gave me that 'hmm, it's quiet' look and uncovered her ears. Later that day I had to stop by welding school and another guy was there on his Harley. He looked at mine and said it's a nice bike, but I need to get the loudest pipes I can find on it as soon as I can before I get hit by a car. When I told him I'd been riding for 15 years, on quiet bikes, and haven't been hit yet he basically said that I was lucky. Walked away shaking his head. :huh


    I get asked pretty often about when I'm putting pipes on, especially if I go to poker runs or run into people I know. I gave up explaining long ago, now I just say I can't afford it. That part is true anyways. Rhineharts + power commander + air cleaner upgrade is almost $2000 for my bike. I can almost buy a Sportster with pipes already on it for that.
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  10. Flash412

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  11. SloMo228

    SloMo228 World Class Cheapass

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    I agree with you here. I mean, just statistically speaking, some obnoxiously loud motorcycle has almost certainly alerted an otherwise inattentive driver to the presence of that motorcycle, possibly preventing a collision. So to say that loud pipes save lives is probably a true statement.

    But I could also say "Only riding while wrapped in bubble wrap 16" thick saves lives" and it would be true on the same level. Sure, having a loud pipe has probably saved a few people. But the tradeoff in destroying societal goodwill toward motorcyclists on the road just isn't worth the (probably tiny) increase in safety, in my opinion. Really, that's the issue I think most non-loud-pipe riders have with the Big Bubba Blatts of the world - they're making us all seem like jackasses.

    Besides, many modern cars are soundproofed extremely well. With the stereo turned up to even just a moderate volume, it would be difficult to hear even the loudest potato-potato-potatoes. :lol3
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  12. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    Loud pipes might contribute to some increased awareness at times if you are lucky. Remember how well insulated modern cars are from every outside influence and noise, plus stereos, etc are quite good/loud these days. Plus don't forget how many people don't hear ambulances, etc.

    What loud pipes will always do is annoy people and degrade the general public view of motorcycling.

    Rather than relying on a passive "Safety" device, these guys really should just learn how to ride assertively in traffic and not bobble along like just another one of the cars. I can't tell you how many times I see a cruiser guy rolling along in someone's blind spot for minutes on end without a care in the world. MOVE! Stay visible! Use your space and your size and acceleration to your advantage! Make yourself standout! Jebus!
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  13. gmk999

    gmk999 ____ as a Rotax

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    By a H.A. in full uniform (but all sleeveless ) who said .. " who the hell wears a long sleeve jacket to ride in 80 degree weather?!!" as he dismounted and almost tripped on the bull-whip hanging from his handle bar..


    Ride your ride..
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  14. BanjoBoy

    BanjoBoy Been here awhile

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    :lol3 Them n00b "bros" alwayz crack me up waddle'n down the road like ducks! :lol3
    If'n yer too stunned ta reply, just give 'em the "implied" face palm!
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  15. theshnizzle

    theshnizzle Long timer

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    I want that right now...where,where,where.....
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  16. Jnich77

    Jnich77 Been here awhile

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    Exactly!!!! A bunch of accountants, office managers, and sales persons playing dress up on the weekends...lol.
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  17. pretbek

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    You mean, like...a horn? :lol3


    Yeah, I'm disregarding the fact that rider skill almost entirely replaces the need for even a horn in most situations.
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  18. el queso

    el queso toda su base

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    I've been away from the computer for a week but I just want to say, well played sir. I read the OP and promptly went to youtube to get some fashion tips for my lady.
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  19. DGraham

    DGraham Been here awhile

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    Bubble wrap...hmmmm...hadn't thought of that. Insulation value, cushiony, water proof. I like it! But only if it pops super super loud (to save my life).
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  20. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    Im gunna put a cowbell on my 1150....

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