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Discussion in 'Vendors' started by Grok, Jun 27, 2011.
Post #1 in this thread,
Thank you Grok, most grateful here from Tasmania
Hi I would like to buy a Harmonizer is the a link or site I can go to to get on the waiting list for May?
Like he said +1.
Am a newbie on here so humour me on this one...
By posting in the this thread you've automatically subscribed yourself to receive updates.
So, as and when Grok gets a new supply of harmonizers in stock, he'll post here to advise, and you should get an email to notify you (be sure to check back every time you do receive a notification otherwise the notifications will cease).
At that point you jump back to the first post in this thread and the option to order via paypay will be available to you. Does that explain it?
Geez, people... Newbie or not, does *ANYBODY* bother to actually read some in a thread anymore???
Or are we so much into the age where folks demand instant gratification with no work involved?
For those of you out there who want to purchase one of Grok's "Harmonizer" rigs I suggest you *FIRST* read the very first post in the thread - then come back and read about the last 5 or 6 pages in the thread. That will save you from asking questions that have already been answered numerous, numerous times.
Thanks Grok,harmonizer arrive today.From Singapore
Thanks - much appreciated
Read the entire thread over the course of a couple of months. In the meantime I have had my bike torn down and put back together doing some modifications. A scheduled tune up is coming up soon.
My question is; are all these diagnostic tools different or do they essentially do the same job. I ask because I will be purchasing one of these devices in the near future for use on my 09 Moto Guzzi Stelvio. Am leaning toward the Harmonizer, Looking at the Centurion-S, is it more feature rich ? The basic Centurion -S is limited to one machine type, while the harmonizer looks like it will work across the board.
Just trying to learn.
Centurion-S or (TR-VDST) @ Guzzitech
http://forum.guzzitech.com/store/product/15-tr-vdst-diagnostics/category_pathway-11.html this model is specific to one specific machine.
Ducati Diagnostics ????
Two different devices for two completely different purposes...
The Guzzi device you reference in your link is simply a "badged" version of Technoresearch's VDST electronics tuning and diagnostic system. See more here:
It will do a lot of things, but one thing it will *NOT* do is synch your throttle bodies. Quite the contrary. It plugs into the connection to the ECU and allows you to alter some ECU parameters, but only those not "locked down" by the motorcycle or ECU manufacturer.
OTOH, the "Harmonizer" is a pressure differential device that allows you to measure the intake vacuum in each intake tract. It hooks up to ports on your intake manifolds and allows you to *balance* the airflow so each cylinder is operating at the same negative intake pressure.
Unless you are a professional shop you will probably rarely, if ever, use the capabilities of the VDST system (and I know, I had one with the specific software, cables, etc. for Ducati's, and sold it)... OTOH, you will use a manometer-type device like the "Harmonizer" all the time, at every tune-up, and you can use it on any twin-cylinder motorcycle.
Hope this helps.
Quick response, thanks guys the responses clear up my questions perfectly. Looks like I need a harmonizer.
Sounds like a comparrison between the Harmonizer and the GS911 for BMWs.
I am interested in getting this. I did a search and could not find any information on the warranty of this product. Is there a warranty for defects?
If memory serves, it carries a 2 year warranty, and he stands by the product.
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Just recieved my Harmonizer from the post. My first impression is that it is a very tidy and a very well made piece of equipment. Had to press the button of course. It has lights and happy faces!!!Looks well designed and easy to use. Great packaging also. I am looking forward to giving it a whirl tommorow. I will update after my first use.
Awesome job Grok, Thanks
Got my Harmonizer last week and finally got time to use it today. Recently rebuilt my throttle bodies on my 2003 GS with 131,000 miles. Rebuild went well, but when I took it to the dealer to have them balance the throttle bodies I was less than satisfied with the results. The mechanic explained that the stop screws probably needed to be adjusted since I had replaced the spindle assemblies and to do it could take up to several hours. I wasn't going to pay the hourly rate and spent the money on the Harmonizer instead. I checked existing balance today and the BBscrews were 1 turn away from each other. Setting them both the same (1 1/2 turns out) made the balance 175mbar off. Started from scratch with the stop screws backed completely out, BBscrews set to 1 1/4 turns out, TPS set to .001 volts, I set the TPS to .320 volts by moving the left throttle stop screw, balanced the right side to match, and only had to adjust the cables to get a balance at 3500 rpm. Also found out that my tachometer is about 150 rpm lower than actual engine speed. Rode it around the parking lot and had a variance of only + or - 2mbar from idle all the way up. I am pleased!!! Took it for a spin at highway speeds, and my mirrors are the clearest they have been in years at highway speeds and bike is great at low (walking) speeds. Best part it took less than 1 hour. Thanks Grok!!
Just getting placed for a reply when these units become available once more.
So after receiving feedback from this forum and the Wildguzzi forum, I will definitely be getting the Harmonizer. The consensus is that the better alternative to the Centurion diagnostic tool is to download the available software program written by enthusiast from the EU to your laptop for Ducati or Moto Guzzi,( along with a donation is recommended) purchase the needed cables from Amazon for $20.00 and rock and roll. With the Harmonizer and the Guzzi/Ducati software most of your tune-up needs can be addressed. The Ducati diagnostic software will work on both the Ducati and Guzzi machines, while the Guzzi software is specific to Moto Guzzi. Shoot I'm pretty sure some guys art utilizing the software on their Androids. Makes the harmonizer and the diagnostic software on the Android a great compact traveling companion. Pretty Cool!!
I still want a four carb model-grok?????? :d i will post again in a few more months the same thing-lol. And yes i have read the entire thread mutiple times!!!