Has anyone done a "Buy back" "hire"?

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  1. KTM_Paul

    KTM_Paul Sans KTM

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    Just thinking, wouldn't mind popping over for a ride next year but don't want to freight my bike over and rentals just seem too costly, has anyone done a buy back where you buy a bike from a shop and then they buy it back off you at the end of the trip? If so where did you get it from and how did it all work? Looking for ChCh really but any experience would be appreciated, I still think my best bet may be just to buy a cheap'ish bike (like a k model Beemer), ride it then sell it again at the end (2 weeks later) worse case scenario I could leave it at my parents place until it sells :deal
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  2. beetroot

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    I haven't heard of a buy back type thing being done here.

    But there's the website Trademe (kinda like ebay), where people advertise bikes and cars and what not for sale. So you could probably organize to purchase a bike where ever you arrive to and then list it again, could always sell it a bit cheaper for a quick sale. But id you have family over here leave it at there place while it sells.
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  3. KTM_Paul

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    Yeah cheers, I have been looking on Trademe I'm wondering if when it comes time to come over I could swing some kind of deal with a private seller to "Buy" there bike off them for a couple of weeks then sell it back at a reduced rate later, just get my name put on the insurance and they get the bike back a couple of weeks later with an extra couple of K km's on it and a grand in there pocket :deal
    I'm actually thinking now about coming over for the Warbirds over Wanaka ... always wanted to go to that! :evil
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  4. Padmei

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    Actually I may be interested in that as mentioned in other thread.
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  5. glitch_oz

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    Going through all those hoops plus the commitment and possible risk ...for a 2-week usage period??
    By the time all wear and tear/ insurance/ tyres/ servicing etc etc are taken into account, I can't see much sense in a buy-back.

    Possibly for long periods of a few months or more. In which case shipping or purchasing/ re-selling is a more viable and practical alternative.

    Shipped our bikes from Oz for a 5 week stint in 2005 and did a proper accountant-style comparo ( the non-sentimental type, hard figures only) afterwards...the minimal difference compared to all-inclusive longterm hire rates of a roughly equivalent bike were quite revealing.

    Been hiring ever since.

    Like with our latest NZ trip, just a few weeks ago.



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    Found our way across the Haka, the Mackenzie's and Meyers Pass


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    and the generous amount of river-pebbles to add some extra-kick to the riding


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    Crossed the Dansey's Pass


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    ...and had lunch on the warm rocks of the Macreas Rd., then shook our heads at the hidden wonders of the Horse Range on the way to some giant soccer balls someone had forgotten on Moeraki Beach.


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    Creeping out of the fog on the Ramrock Rd.


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    ...while floating above a sea of cottonwool in the valleys.

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    The Old Dunstan Trail across the High Plains,

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    the gobsmacking Thompson Gorge Track, the brutal corrugations of the Treble Cone and Remarkables roads, but the views, maaan...the VIEWS!! [​IMG][​IMG]




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    No way I'll forget the heartstopping chase up the Crown Range Rd....and then Skippers WHOOHOO!!


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    Aliens over Cromwell ?


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    ...the Thrills 'n Spills of the Nevis Pass....oh yeah!!..you better love your river crossings!

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    Some fine drops of local brew


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    The jawdropping vistas from the Hawksburn Track with it's steep, rocky drop into Clyde....



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    and the Lake Onslow track across the top into Linburn Runs
    under low-flying blackbellies threatening an real bad soaking.

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    It didn't stop there, oh noooo....Takaka Hill in the north, Cape Farewell, Cape Foulwind and the weird coal-mine on top of the coastal ranges at Deniston



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    the awesome twisties of Hwy 6 towards Murchison, the hidden valley at Pepin Bay

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    Buller Gorge, Maruia Saddle and the Braeburn Track, it's hard to go for air, the thrills just never stopped.


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    HEAPS MORE ACTUALLY !!

    Go and find out!!
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  6. Padmei

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    We don't need your kind flaunting pictures like that around thank you very much - we like to keep our secret spots to ourselves.



    looks like it was a pretty inclusive trip.
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    oops :lol3
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  8. KTM_Paul

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    I must say you've swung me more towards a dual purpose bike with your photos, I was mainly looking at road tourers but if "the right" DP bike came up I wouldn't have been opposed to it, now I'm thinking the opposite :huh
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    Good thinking...it's DP country made in heaven!
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  10. KTM_Paul

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    I don't suppose you'd have a map of your route? :huh
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  13. KTM_Paul

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    How's this for a thought ... instead of getting something like a $5 - $6k 500cc+ bike that's done about 80,000km and going two up, what about a couple of GN250's for around $2.5k each that have done under 20,000km and riding solo? am I crazy? I think they'd handle dirt roads ok('ish) and that's probably as far off road as we'd go, what would the rego costs of 2 x 250cc motorbikes vs 1 x 650cc bike be?
    The whole thing is we wouldn't be in a hurry (obviously :rofl) and my main bike here is a Royal Enfield so a GN would probably be faster anyway (I don't need to go fast I have a race bike that can do over 290kmh)
    Whatcha reckon? :huh
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  14. clintnz

    clintnz Trans-Global Chook Chaser

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    For $2.5-3K ea you'd get a couple of 250 dual purpose bikes & have way more fun than you would on a GN :evil Most 250 trailies have got a good bit more power than the ol GN too. Rego is definitely cheaper.

    If you spot anything you like the look of near Rotorua I'm happy to have a look at it for you.

    Cheers
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  15. KTM_Paul

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    Cheers Clint, the trailies are usually a lot older and/or with a lot more K's than an equivalent priced GN but I'm still just looking and wondering at this stage and keeping my options open, the other advantage of a GN is a lower seat height for my G/F, she's not the tallest and her confidence is a bit lacking on dirt when she can't touch the ground, maybe I need to get a Kwaka Sherpa for her :evil
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  16. bikemoto

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  17. bikemoto

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    Bear in mind the newer GNs (last 10 years?) are Thai-made and are simply not up to the same quality as the older Jap-made ones. I helped a newbie mate decide to buy a new GN rather than an older anything since he is not mechanically minded. He used the warranty several times in the 9 months he had it, for fairly important items that are normally taken as a given that these things just work on bikes built in the last 25 years or so... His was not an isolated case. Maybe if you buy one now it'll have had all these things fixed?

    Older trailies seem to just go forever, slowly wearing everything out. The big thumpers do tend to go bang after some stellar mileage but the 250s don't.

    If you are prepared to suffer a GN250 then I'd suggest looking at DR200, SL230, KLR250, XT225 etc for the inseam-challenged. They won't have a huge amount of pace fully laden, but a GN250 doesn't have a huge amount of pace, period. :D Most of the 250s are stronger but taller.
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