Has anyone tried this tubeless wheel conversion kit?

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  1. JTXT

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    The only problem I could foresee with this product is fitting the tire on with the space on the channel of the wheel filled with tape. My experience is that the tire needs to be able to sit in the high spot of the wheel as you install it. If it's filled with tape the tolerance may be to tight making tire installation very difficult?
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    It is hard to tell from the video but the tape does not look that much thicker than the rubber rim strip that originally is installed on the rim and should not make installing the tire too much more difficult.
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    This looks promising.

    Who's gonna be the OC guinea pig?
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    I'm seriously thinking about it, I ordered a 19/17 wheelset from Woody's yesterday and was planning on doing Cyborg's tubeless sealing method.I sent Woody an e-mail today to find out if he has any knowledge or experience of how the Outex system performs.
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    Looks easy enough,but if you did this,do they make any tubeless knobbies?
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    Please keep us in the loop with Woody's reply.
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    I've ridden tubeless TKC-80s on my BMW 1200GS, so yes (assuming you consider those knobbies).

    Here's a dumb question: if I convert my tubed rims to tubeless, do I also need to buy tubeless tires? Or is a tire just a tire? I've ridden both tubed and tubeless, but never thought about converting one to the other.
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    Yes, some tires can work as tubeless but some can't, I think it might have to do with the thickness (and stiffness) of the side-walls (the thicker the better?)....
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    No safety bead on the front rim would have to rule it out for that end.
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    Okay, that looks awesome. I've had mixed success with the "cyborg" method, and it's tedious. This method looks WAY easier. Where? How much? I don't see the thickness of the adhesive being an issue for mounting tires.

    Who's gonna try it? :evil :ear
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    The $129 is only for a kit to suit 2 x 17" rims. You need to search their site http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~outex/tubelesskitenglishlist.htm for the specific kit required, ie 21" front & 18" rear, etc. Then identify the kit to the seller via eBay and they'll get back to you with a price.

    Cheers Rich
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    The Heidenau K60 Scouts I just got are tubeless (at least that's what the sidewall says), but yeah... the stock front rim doesn't have a safety bead.
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    I've been using the TuBliss system on my dirtbikes this past year. See; http://tubliss.com/

    These work great, but are not available in the wide sizes for the 9xx ADV bikes.

    The tape system you've found is very similar to what is used on mountain bikes. That's my experience. See; http://www.notubes.com/

    One seals the spoke area with tape and a specific valve. Then mounts the tire and pours in sealant. The sealant seals the tire's edges and the carcass. Tubeless tires have a non-permeable liner. Tube tires do not, so the sealant is needed to seal the sidewalls.

    Not all tires will seal on all rims. And a big air compressor is needed to blow the sidewalls out fast enough to begin the sealing.

    The drawbacks are all related to getting the tire beads seated and sealed before the air pressure is gone. Once seated, most tires are good to go.

    The benefit is no tubes and no pinch flats.
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    Apologise for being ignorant whats the advantage of a tubless tire when we speak about bikes used off roads?
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    Quick and easy repairs in the field with a plug kit. Changing a tube in the field can be a pain (breaking the bead etc). Plus, tubes get hot at high speeds and can fail.
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    two of my riding buddies (HEY BUZZ N YAMMY!!!) have beat the shit out of their bikes with this system. one of them uses a trials tire @ 10PSI or so, no issues.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66iVFMw6Fg0

    just some of the stuff he put his husky 610 through last weekend. buzz is on a dr650.

    later guys !
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