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    Flashback Mommys Lil Monster

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    Not much in the way of dirt roads outside of the off-limits pineapple plantations. Kaena pt and Peacock Flats Jeep trails are open to you once you are legally registered in the DLNR system. Kahuku Motocross/ATV trails are good from what I hear but I ride a big pig that isn't meant for going straight up the side of those hills. Oahu is still more than 60% un-developed. Won't find anything on the internet or in the forums about non-DLNR areas but they exist - unless you are on a KTM 640A or Exc 500 most of them are 350 or smaller trails/roads on full knobbies only and you got to sit in slab-side commuter traffic jams to get to trail entrances.

    For the kind of riding you (and I for that matter) would like, Big Island is best - not much 'open' dirt left on Oahu.
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    yotatoy Been here awhile

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    aye, I hear the jeep trails are a blast, I really want to bring my old solid axle toyota on 35's, but shipping would be crazy high and not sure if it would pass safety either. Might be best to trailer the 350 around up there in back of a truck. Looking to get a bigger bike for commuting, but not sure what yet, something I can get cheap.
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    KevinMTB Been here awhile

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    Yotatoy, I don't think you will have much luck getting that bike registered on Oahu. Back in 2006 I was able to get a new Honda CRF250X registered but it was a pain, I hear now that it's impossible. I even had issues with registering my 2009 Husqvarna TE-610 when I brought it in brand new and it is 50 states street legal, turns out Husky didn't turn in the proper paper work for it to the national data base so I had to go through the whole inspection process with the DMV. Perhaps because it's already registered out of state all you would have to do is get it inspected and have all the right equipment on it, mind you this isn't the usual annual "safety inspection" but a thorough going over by a state inspector. They could deny you for simple things like non DOT rims. Headlight would have to have high and low beam, brake light activated by front and rear lever/pedal, a real horn, tail light for your license plate, speedometer and odometer. It may not be worth the hassle, I had a XR400 plated in Colorado and that was a breeze. Unfortunately, since this is an island the DMV has great control over imported vehicles since you can't just drive across the state line. They require you to get a temporary permit with in 10 or thirty days on import and that is good until your existing registration expires than you are required to get a Hawaii plate, to get the plate you need to get it inspected by a state inspector because the VIN number wont show up in the national database of the DMV because it was never a street legal bike when new.

    As far as riding goes here on Oahu, other than Kahuku, it's all about local knowledge. There are some great trails next to Kahuku Motorcycle track but the area is military training grounds so you're basically poaching trails but it's worth the risk (I haven't been caught since riding since 2006). When it's too wet to ride the hills around Kahuku etc, we ride the pineapple fields which have no security but it isn't technical at all but at least you can ride some dirt and you can also get a free permit to ride Kaena Point which is good riding along the ocean but it is a very small area and regulated as where you can ride. I use to ride a lot up at Peacock Flats on my mountain bike but it is very difficult to get access for a motorcycle, I've only been able to get up there twice. It's easy if you have a 4x4 truck or jeep but not so with a motorcycle.

    I shipped My Husky to Colorado as it was too big a bike for Oahu and perfect for my once a year ride on the mainland, now I ride a Yamaha WR250R which is a perfect dual sport bike for the islands. Hit me up if you end up with a dual sport over here.

    Aloha,
    KevinMTB
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    Flashback Mommys Lil Monster

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    +1 on the WR250R. If I didn't use my F8 as my work "truck" I'd be right there with the WR, opinions on potentially weak subframe aside...best bike for the islands.

    Also looking to put together an ADV camping trip to Peacock Flats if anyone interested. Vehicle registration is not an issue if we actually have the campground reserved.
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    Flashback Mommys Lil Monster

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    Oh, and DoD has video cameras on the Kahuku roads ... even if you aren't "caught" they know who you are and what you are doing ... just sayin' .... also, watch out for the moron who is welding the gate locks shut. Causing all sorts of problems for DoD and us contractors alike. If you go out that way bring a really good bolt cutter.

    And also, the USMC drills in Kahuku ... they aren't afraid to take people they find out in the woods and make them part of the scenario. I know from experience. :flush
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    yotatoy Been here awhile

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    Thanks for all the good info. Sound like it will be a headache to get my DR registered there, which is sad because it's been a good bike to me for years. Maybe will pickup a wr250, always liked them and love the idea of fuel injection and estart, just never been in my budget before. You do enough dirt and sand for the 250r to make sense or would you recommend the 250x with street tires because of the amout of pavement slamming?
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    KevinMTB Been here awhile

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    I've only come across security up there once and it was when they were building the faux town. I've come across the military and they have been pretty cool about it, however I leave the area if I know they are training up there. I've seen cameras by the satellite stations and water tanks but no where else, where have you seen them? I use to do a lot of riding where the new windmills are but they now have tight security over there above Waimea Bay.
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    KevinMTB Been here awhile

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    I would recommend the 250r as the trails around here require good traction/tread. I once went up to Kahuku Motorcycle Track with SM street tires and it was OK on the dry packed dirt but once I hit any mud, I had to bail as the back tire had no traction especially if you hit what we call "Hawaiian ice" which is packed smooth dirt which turns to "ice" when wet. I love the e-start and fuel injection because you will be dropping the bike a lot and you don't have to worry about flooding the carb and I've been stuck on the side of a steep hill where it was impossible to kick start the bike.
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    If you are military or even a contractor with a CAC, talk to the G3 on Schofield about areas in the Range that you can ride....all the roads and access to ranges should be rideable, obviously staying clear of impact areas etc. is important

    Out the back of Schofield is Kolekole pass, there is a little bit of interesting stuff back there but the further over the mountain you get the less safe that would be
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    yotatoy Been here awhile

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    All excellent advice, will be looking for another bike for down there. Mahalo
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    All sage advice!

    Plating "Off Road" Bikes died in 2011 about two months after I plated a 200 XCW, what I have heard of late is that if you bring a plated dirt bike in from another state you cannot sell it as a street legal machine. The title will not be transferable.

    Done numerous races and rides in Kahuku, it's Never Too Wet to ride on a Smoker and if you're in survival mode! Though that doesn't mean I never wished I was someplace else!

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    Flashback Mommys Lil Monster

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    Have a multi-month deployment in guam coming up. Been several years since last time on that island. Anyone have info on active riding community and possible rental of an adventurous mount to tool around on?
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    Be sure to eat a bat while you're there. I did.


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    There is a ton on info on here that I'm trying to collect together for a trip for the lady and my 10 year anniversary. My idea is to rent a bike and two up as much as we can and hit smaller spots away from the resort lifestyle. From what I can tell, I should be looking at the big island or Maui. I have also seen the rental recommendations like hiadv, and they seem to have a couple good options. For two up, I'm thinking FJ09 or I would love to find a R1200R or GS. Any thoughts on other rental places for me to check out?

    Thanks!
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    Thanks for the heads up haven't been in that area for a while
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    DTDowning Simpli Fy

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    Greetings!

    Moving to Oahu in Oct/Nov with the lady. I have a drz400, she's got an un-plated xr200, how is the track scene out there? Any rides going around the island?
    Used to work on a ship that hit the islands regularly but never lived there. How many inmates are out that way and ride regularly?

    Best Regards,
    Dustin