HD...the iconic American brand

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Secondset, May 11, 2018.

  1. Secondset

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    Harley Davidson just announced that they’re opening a plant in Thailand after shutting down the one here in Kansas City a few months ago And laying off over 800 people…They also announced most of the machinery and equipment from the Kansas City plant will be shipped to Thailand to be installed in the new factory!...:muutt
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  2. ukiboy

    ukiboy Been here awhile

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    A real shame.. I once had a Sportster and one of the reasons I bought it was for the 'iconic American brand' cachet. If HD makes their bikes in the Far East I wouldn't feel the same about it.
    Much like with Triumph; riding a Thai built Triumph doesn't do it for me..
    Can't Donald Trump do something? :-)
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    mitchxout Been here awhile

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    He could throw a tantrum?
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  4. ZappBranigan

    ZappBranigan Still Riding

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    Headed for the basement with the other Harley threads in 3, 2, 1..... :D
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  5. Mobiker

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    It depends. If they build the same thing in Thailand and ship it back over here, then piss on 'em. If they build bikes in Thailand and sell them in in Thailand and other Asian countries in an attempt to be more competitive in that market and maybe avoid some high tariffs, then good luck to them.
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  6. merc16

    merc16 Been here awhile

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    So, I wonder if that is their intentions. To build non-big twins over seas.

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  7. ukiboy

    ukiboy Been here awhile

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    Others may disagree with me but IMHO buying a Harley or a Triumph or a BMW or a Ducati is just as much about buying into the heritage and national pride as it is about buying a form of transport.
    There is no way I'd buy a non USA made Harley or a non Italian made Ducati.
    No point paying 'premium' money if the goods are made in a cheaper factory abroad; I pay premium cash, I want the premium product!
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    ... well, so far at least... that little tractor factory in Mandello del Lario ain't goin' anywhere.
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  9. Panther6834

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    Personally, I don't care for HD bikes, and would never want to own one...although I really liked Buell, and longed for the XB9R Firebolt for many years. That being said, it's a sad day when another great American manufacturer "closes up shop", and moves jobs & manufacturing to another country - especially another Asian country. I agree with Mobiker, in that, if bikes manufactured in the Thai factory are ONLY sold in Asia, then I'd be ok with that, although, at the same time, those bikes NEED to have something on them indicated "Designed in the USA" (or some similar wording), making sure they're aware of the fact that this isn't some crappy Asian bike with an American name slapped on it, but IS an American bike. Likewise, even though the bikes will be assembled in Thailand, I'd suspect that the majority of parts will still be manufactured in the US, then shipped overseas for assembly. While HD might be a bit on the dumb side in moving the plant to Thailand, I'm fairly certain they're not so ignorant as to allow them to manufacture the individual parts...or, at least the most important parts, such as the engine.

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  10. rat

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    H-D are built from a lot of outsourced parts already... from a lot of other countries. If it made sense to make the bikes in the US, they would. Face it... North America is becoming nothing more than a consumer.
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  11. chickenhawk71

    chickenhawk71 Been here awhile

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    They already build some sportsters and big twins in india for the Indian market
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    chickenhawk71 Been here awhile

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  13. chickenhawk71

    chickenhawk71 Been here awhile

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    Harley is also building a new plant in PA with 400 new jobs.
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  14. Paebr332

    Paebr332 Good news everyone!

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    No, they are not. They are transferring about 400 jobs from KC to the existing facility in York, PA. The article is wrong.
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    That's what I read. They are "consolidating" the KC factory "into" the York factory.

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  16. PJay

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    I’ve now owned 5 of the Thai-made Triumph twins, currently own 2 2018 ones.

    The reputation worldwide for bulletproof reliability of these Triumphs is deserved, according to my experience.

    The paint and finish of mine are flawless; a characteristic that H-D would be anxious not to lose, too.

    Quality and value is a combination hard to resist.
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    chickenhawk71 Been here awhile

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    Just going off what I read. It's not like i made it up
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    SportsterTom Been here awhile

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    How would you feel if Britten had made a production bike for years and then switched production to Thailand. It wouldn't feel good would it?
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    PJay Any bike, anywhere

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    Bloody brilliant if it was a better product. My English-made Triumphs were shitboxes, pretty though they were.

    And the late John Britten was a personal friend of mine, too, from his classic racing days.

    I have another friend who was out practising on one of John’s bikes when the front forks collapsed and pitched him off.
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    KMC1 There is no spoon.

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    Apparently the new management team has never heard of AMF Harley Davidson. :deal

    And you get the benefit of knowing you financially support a military regime which will literally imprison you for "liking" a facebook post it has deemed unacceptable, or for having the gall to say something with which they do not agree. But hey, if you can save $20 who gives a fuck about supporting Orwellian oppression amiright?? And don't even get me started about the last 30 years of sending all our technology and manufacturing to China, only to now have fucking hypersonic nuclear missiles pointed at us while they threaten to go to war with us and build islands in the middle of the ocean. Because obviously, if you don't support the downfall of America, you must be a racist. :hair
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