'Heart of the West' & 'Sierra to the Sea' ADV Routes

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  1. byways

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    In my continuing quest to identify convenient accommodations that fit the spirit of Heart of the West travel, I've come upon Pinedale, Wyoming's, historic Log Cabin Motel.

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    It's just a block or two from the heart of this authentic little town at the foot of the Wind River Mountains. The owners assure me they're moto-friendly, and know the appeal of being able to park one's bike right outside their charming little cabins.

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    Pinedale is an important stop along the route, either before or after (depending on whether one travels clockwise or CCW) one braves the long and remote stretches of Oregon Trail that are part of the H.o.W. experience.

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    Travelers often prefer Pinedale -- where ranchers, energy workers, hikers, climbers and ADV travelers find a comfortable cultural mix -- to more famous Jackson, the pricey tourism-driven community that H.o.W. bypasses.

    As conditions clear up "out there," I shall continue exploring further opportunities for a comfortable night amid authentic American West settings. And as always, I do not receive any form of compensation, discounts, etc. for mentioning these establishments.
  2. byways

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    ... I've just returned from Wyoming -- where I once lived, where my wife and I met -- concluding a long day exploring and recording tracks for a particularly long and remote segment of the historic migration route.

    It soon will be added to H.o.W., providing yet another option to adapt the route to one's interests, itinerary and riding style.

    First, I crossed a river, still high and fast with spring runoff ... an incongruous sight in Wyoming's high desert:

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    Then I made my way through a badland and onto the vast sagebrush plain. The wind was merciless. Clouds far to the east obscured the snowy peaks of the Wind River Range.

    This lonely stretch of trail -- where the air was sweet with the scent of springtime sage -- preserves the emigrant experience more than any other I know of. Hours went by here, deep in the heart of the west, and I encountered not another soul ...

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    Along the way, I came upon the trailside grave of emigrant Lucinda B. Wright, mother of seven.

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    The cause of her death is said to be unknown; but we know that cholera claimed many emigrant lives. Whatever the cause, one has to wonder what was it like for her family to leave her here, never to see her again after coming so far and enduring so much.

    Her nephew remembered:
    I shall never forget how desolate we felt as we hitched up the oxen and pulled out, leaving the freshly broken earth by the side of the Old Oregon Trail as the only visible sign that one of our number had finished the journey, while we must still travel on.
  3. TxTiger

    TxTiger Been here awhile

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    Nice work Tony. This is the first I've been able to catch up with this thread since you went on vacation, been working and playing.

    I'm wondering if anyone who's doing this ride in September is planning on starting in Colorado? There are a couple of things up in the air for my riding buddy and he may not be able to do the ride. If this is the case I need to come up with a plan B, as there were so far only the two of us. I'm trying to talk a couple of my retired friends to consider going, but so far nothing definite. This doesn't look like the kind of ride one wants to do alone.

    If anyone is starting in CO and has room for an extra rider, let me know. I would be honest about my riding capabilities to see if there's compatibility. My riding buddy should know something definite pretty soon, but it never hurts to have a backup plan.

    Tony, when do think you will send updated info on the tracks?
  4. byways

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    TxTiger, I'm sorry to hear about the uncertainty involving your companion. These trips are a big commitment, and I know how much and for how long you've been looking forward to it.

    Can anyone out there take one more rider (who has been a real gentleman in the course of our longtime online relationship)?

    I don't at the moment recall anyone who is starting in Colorado, TxTiger, but there must be; Meeker has been a popular start/end point.

    Rawlins, Wyoming, is a popular start/end point, since the route passes close to it and Rawlins is conveniently located on Interstate 80. I wonder if anyone who's doing so might have room for one more ...

    In addition to posting here, you might also launch a new thread in your "Regional" forum, and in "Trip Planning."

    If you do, be sure to use a direct and clear title so it grabs people's attention. In the meantime, if I sense an opportunity, I'll make a pitch on your behalf.

    Regarding sending out updated tracks ... it's going to take me through this coming weekend to get this new Oregon Trail option cleaned up and ready to paste into the main H.o.W. file.

    There are two others that I hope to revisit in coming weeks, as things continue to dry out. One is in Utah (the roadway has been relocated a few hundred feet due to recurrent flooding, but I'm told the change doesn't affect navigation at all); and the other, in Idaho, involves a 10,000-foot summit adjacent to the Continental Divide, so it's a few weeks early yet.

    Both are currently in the file, and are functionally fine.

    I did get into the mountains near the Idaho/Montana line the other day. Things are looking very good now ...

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  5. TxTiger

    TxTiger Been here awhile

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    Thanks Tony, I appreciate you. Hopefully a plan B won't be necessary, and/or maybe I can recruit a couple of my retired riding friends.
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    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    Maybe another so-cal ride group coming together...
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    Would that be legal? :freaky
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    DYNOBOB lucky dog

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    When are you thinking Chris? 630 or 800?

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    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    Big bikes is the word, 800's, 990's, 1200's. Would likely ride out. Or trailer to Utah for jump off or something.
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    Don't forget, ya'll ... Klim HQ is just up the road a piece from Idaho Falls, and they welcome visitors ...

    Send me dates if you can fit it in and I'll arrange a private fitting ... I mean tour ...

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    Psh, ride out.

    Maybe see ya out there :).Right now the plan for our group is to start the loop in W.Wendover on 30 Aug.
  12. byways

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    In reference to the aforementioned "big bikes" ... Among the big changes I've made to the route has been replacing a manicured county road with ...

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    ... and ...

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    ... and ...

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    Just sayin' ...
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    Our group is on big bikes too...

    Luckily that still doesn't look too bad. Challenge accepted. :)
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    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    The big bikes are fine on this stuff as long as there isn't a lot of sand or really steep grades.

    What is the ratio of dirt roads to hiway?

    Klinq - may well see you out there. :evil
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    Browneye, I've never done the actual arithmetic to calculate how much is paved or unpaved; but the route is overwhelmingly unpaved.

    There is slab ...

    -- from the mountains of NE Utah/the Wasatch Front to the west desert, roughly 145 miles

    -- from the north end of Great Salt Lake back to the mtns of NE Utah; then into western Wyoming

    -- outside of Idaho Falls and Dillon, MT

    -- along the fringes of Yellowstone and Jackson Hole, Wyo.

    -- a few miles of I-80 outside of Rawlins, Wyo.

    -- leading into and out of Meeker, Colo

    -- a 30-mile or so wide-open segment south of the two Wendovers @ I-80 west of Salt Lake City

    Over the years I've put a great deal of effort into eliminating paved travel where possible and warranted. But I do try to make dirt-road travel purposeful and rewarding.

    If I have to guesstimate the unpaved/paved ratio currently in percentage terms, I'll venture 85/15.
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    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    Can you provide approximate mileages of these segments? It would help determine which bike best fits the overall route. I have since learned that we are 750 miles of hiway before we even start the route. That means trucking a dualsport, or riding an adventure bike.
    Thanks!
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    This is no trail-bike route. It's intended for dual-sport to ADV-grade bikes.

    It's roughly 145 paved miles from the mtns of NE Utah through the densely populated Wasatch Front to the west desert. (Helps to keep one's eyes closed.) The others are much less.
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    PM sent. :D
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    PM receive and responded to! :thumb