I must admit that I had mixed feelings about the gloves when I first got them. Very stiff and yes made in Pakistan. Now I really don't care where they are made except I would be happier if they were made in the US, of course I ride a German Motorcycle and not a Harley so I guess I'm talking out of my ass. Anyway after a few thousand miles the gloves have grown on me. They have softened up a bit and the gauntlets fit OVER my Stitch jacket and I suspect they will only get better with time. So in general I'm happy enough with the products that I just ordered the pants and socks to fill out the set. I got the wind blocker Gen four pants since even though I ride in the Stitch most of the time when I'm not I'm in denim jeans and they block like zero wind!