Heidenau K60 problems

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by motocrotts, Apr 6, 2013.

  1. motocrotts

    motocrotts Been here awhile

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    Mine are no worse than yours for sure. I may have over inflated a time or two but I usually keep it at 36 psi for road and 30 for off road. I don't run it that hard on the street maybe 90 max just to escape from the random Buick. Still waiting for a reply.
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  2. ciedema

    ciedema мотоциклист

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    You can really abuse them without failure.

    I rode mine until bald as I couldn't get the tire I needed until Almaty.

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  3. BELSTAFF

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    Hey Mark:
    Jeff here-- & I'm wondering how did the super mefo last, how many miles have you put on and has she tried to kill you yet :rofl
    I'm sure that everything is fine w/ you & that psycho :lol3 When anyone ask why I made the transition from KTM to BMW I tell them story about living with that bike.
    I'm following along on this thread as I also have k60 s on the beemer (rear) tkc 80 (ft) love that combo & belive its the best set up for 50/50 bike.----If you remember to turn off the ABS :lol3

    If you get a chance Post up some pix of the psycho bike ---would like to see how shes fared under someone that has more power over her
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  4. motocrotts

    motocrotts Been here awhile

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    Just getting to roll over 5K miles on the bike. I usually ride the Dirt bikes in the winter and switch to D/S when it gets hot. I put Alpina Tubless wheels on the bike and installed the K60's at the same time. I still have the Conti and super Mefo on the oem wheels setting in the garage. To be honest the front is good but the Conti is better and the super Mefo is probably better too. I'm just scared of tubes at speed. When I wear these heidi's out I'm putting the mefo and conti on the tubless wheels.
    The bike is the most amazing motorcycles I've ever owned, period. I simply love it. Sold the low seats and got a Saddlemans, with the taint relief strip. Very Nice. Had Dillon install an extra fan and I put the OEM mirrors back on. Never have figured out the GPS but no big deal. It's been a great bike for me Jeff, and it's been super friendly even two up in the dirt. I shut the abs off when leaving the pavement as I always stop and adjust the air pressure. Plus I love the ability to just shut off the rear. I was telling Dillion just the other day I bet you wish you hadn't sold it.
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  5. Snowhite808

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    Mine are 150/70 R18 Scout, manufactured in 2012 beginning.
    Perhaps running in the cold northern europe, they are getting less beating than in deserts and so. I never run them more than 35 psi cold. They dont heat up that bad then also. In the soft stuff they can haul the bike around 20-25psi and be still protective. Not as good as Mitas E09 Dakar but strong enough to carry the bike with me.
    I suppose it is totally other story, when the bike is loaded with two people and luggage. I like to travel light. Or as light as possible and check the pressure and temp of the tires. Some of the folks have had very long runs on the 17/19 combos here - have a friend with a 1000cc strom and more than 10k miles on the rear. It does have a totally different thread pattern and rubber and carcass of course - being 17 and TL and all.
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  6. Two Moto Kiwis

    Two Moto Kiwis Homeless Somewhere

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  7. motocrotts

    motocrotts Been here awhile

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    Got my reply from Heidenau today and they said "the tire looked like it had been ridden in rocky terrain and see nothing to warrant any concern." So......I'll keep an eye on it and when it's done I'll put a Mefos on it.
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  8. beergut

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    SO based on what the response from the Heidenau rep said, its a user issue. I would disagree.
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  9. Blackalac

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    I just had a 150- 18 mounted on the rear of my 2004 950. the tire was spin balanced and needed 3 oz of weight. The Scorp that was on previously needed 1 oz on the opposite side. How are you finding the balance on the K-60s
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  10. chrish4ku

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    Ran the K60 scout rear for some long trips, two up, and inflated to 33 psi cold. Never had a single crack so the whole over inflation thing makes total sense.

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  11. D K

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    FWIW, I had a similar problem with Mefo Super Explorers on my SE.

    Thanks to Bas at Hyperpro and the people at Mefo, I got it replaced under warranty, but the general consensus was that the tire likes to be run at much higher pressures than we are used to.
    Even in the dirt.
    Mefo recommends something like 43psi at all times:puke1

    I know these tires are similar, so that might be something to consider.

    $.02


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  12. motocrotts

    motocrotts Been here awhile

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    I have to agree with you. I'm just going to keep a close eye on it. As far as balance goes, with the Alpina tubeless wheels the balance is great.
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    Probably Kilometers from the kiwi.
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    We currently have 6600 miles or 10646 km on the rear now and it should easily get us to Bogota.

    This is running two up with house and content in Central American heat, not our MT 21 dissolved quickly on coarse and hot chip.
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  15. TMoore

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    Watch out. The Mefo Super Explorer 150/18 is a Tube Type tire. I put a new one on a new Woodys tubeless rim and it leaked air at the
    bead. Replaced with new K60 Scout no prob. My bad.

    T
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  16. motocrotts

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    Well, thanks for the good news. I like the Hiedenau's for sure. The grip is excellent on and off road. I do believe the problem is over inflation combined with an abundance of rocks. I was down at the shop today and saw another 990 with a K60 and he had a LOT more cracks and cuts than I do and it was still going strong. I'm not giving up the tubeless rims for tubes. Anybody want a Mefos with 500 miles on it? I may have to look into the TKC-80's, I know they don't last as long but I like to error on the side of caution, I've gone down at 65mph before and it ain't fun.
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  17. sea2sum

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    I've had a couple sets of K60's and have found the sweet spot two up is 28psi front, and 32 psi rear. I have TPMS, and at 80-90 dergees ambient on pavement the actual rolling pressure goes up to 35-36 in the rear, and 31 in the front. I had some cracking with my first set, but I got 11k out of them.

    One thing you might consider for a lot of soft dirt riding is a TKC in the front,and a K60 in the rear. I have found that you'll have great traction on the front, and the rear doesnt matter as much as people give it credit for. Especially on the heavy bikes. You should have to Replace both the front and the rear at the same time.

    Just a thought. I ride my GS with that combination a lot in Baja.
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  18. motocrotts

    motocrotts Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the tips, I'll try lowering the pressure more and rechecking when their hot. We don't have a lot of soft dirt here though.
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    and I thougt I used mine up... you win...
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  20. TMoore

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    As a side note/question: I mount all my tires by hand, the hard way on the floor with my knees & spoons. The K60 Scout was the most difficult tire Ive ever put on a rim other than the original 150/18 Karoo. :eek1 The tire was cold (60F-ish) so Im sure it would have been easier had I left it in the sun for an hour. But Jeebus! I barely got on there. Anybody else? Changing one roadside would not be a happy time.

    T
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