Heidenau K60

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by upweekis, Apr 11, 2010.

  1. Y E T I

    Y E T I Unpossible

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    Yup. I got it from Moto Amore a while ago. I have about 5,000 miles on it with about 1/3 to 1/2 worn. I'm going to try the 140 next time just for grins but would not hesitate to get a 150 either.
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  2. The Griz

    The Griz Long timer

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    Nice, good to hear that the mileage is good. I've been assured by two vendors (Moto Amore and Heidl Engineering) that the new compound will maintain the same mileage, as this is one of Heidenau's main concerns. They had to rework the compound to increase high speed stability with this 150/70-17, but they didn't want milage to suffer....

    Either way, I'm ordering a 150/70-17 and 90/90-21 ASAP.
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  3. MonsterJ

    MonsterJ I have motopsychosis

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    I've got the K60's on one of our F8GSs and I've put about 6500 highway miles on it in the last two months (I wish it was more weekend fun miles instead but I've had a hell of a commute waiting to close on my new house..) and there's still plenty of tread left. It's just now to the point that if you stare at the profile you'll start to notice where it's getting a flat spot. Over 90% of that mileage is spent a 80+mph for long durations. I'm easily gonna get 10K outta this tire. One thing to note about the 140 rear: Because it is a taller tire, expect more lean when on the side stand. I'll probably go back to a 150 when this one's spent just for that reason.
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  4. Gangplank

    Gangplank Advenchaintourer

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    Ok so the wear is great... how is the stickyness on street and off road capability compared to say a TKC 80 or the Shinko 705's?
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  5. Ducksbane

    Ducksbane Quaaack!!!

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    Me again ...:baldy :lol3

    As I said the rear is great, fabulous hook up on gravel, only spins when you want it to, seems pretty good in mud, no problems on tar. I think it is considerably better than the TKC80. The front ... naar, I don't like it. It's pretty good on the bitumen, but on gravel and mud it's nowhere near as good as the TKC ( After my episode on the clay I don't trust it that much!)

    So as YetiGS says best combination for F800GS is front TKC80, rear K60, probably works just about anywhere.

    In fact I'm off to see if I can do a deal with a trade in.!:eek1
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  6. Y E T I

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    On the rear, I cannot tell a difference between the TKC and the K60. On the road or in the dirt, they feel the same to me and have equal traction as far as I can tell. I don't push hard on the street though so . . .

    I have no basis to discuss the front K60 since I've never run one.
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  7. Pomo

    Pomo gonzo

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    Difference being that the TKC lasts (MMV of course) somewhere between 3k and 5k, and reports are the K60 last at least twice as long. I'm sold. :evil

    I got about 3.5k out of my TKC rear, and I actually still have it with maybe 20% left, but I dunno if I'll justify putting it back on anytime soon. It's a wonderful tire, always grippy rain, shine, dirt or pavement, but it wears oddly. Goes down to what appears like 50% of the tread block in less than 1000 miles then takes forever to wear down to the bars.
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  8. Y E T I

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    Exactly why I run it. So far, it seems like the TKC front will wear at the same rate as the K60 rear. Unfortunately, my TKC front had a 2k head start . . .
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  9. Ducksbane

    Ducksbane Quaaack!!!

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    Well, I don't think I can do a deal on a trade in for my front K60, so I will have to learn to live it for quite a while (unless I have any more "interesting" moments with it! :eek1).

    So does anyone know what the best pressures are for all round use with these tires? I was thinking of trying about 30psi in the front and either 30 or 28 at the back.
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  10. johngil

    johngil Reseda, CA

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    I ran the K60 in front for a while @ 30psi. I was impressed w/ it's handling off road considering the tread depth. On the road was fine. Can't say much more because I don't remember anything out of the ordinary.
    Never did get into any mud, but most front tires ball up and are pretty worthless on a quarter ton bike.

    The Stinkos scared the hell out of me on the road.
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  11. Y E T I

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    I run mine a bit higher on the road. 38 in the rear and 36 front. I air down to 25 or so in the dirt although I'm not really sure it makes a difference and may expose the rims to being dinged. Next time I'm in the dirt I'm gonna ride a bit with them at the street pressures and then air down and see if I notice a difference.
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  12. geno_rocket

    geno_rocket Been here awhile

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    Mine work well off road and on - can't tell any difference between them and a TKC shod F8GS I rode recently in the dirt. On road they seem quit pleasant with decent grip, including a bit of rain riding. No complaints Approx 500 miles on them 70% on road and 30% off road.
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  13. soph9

    soph9 Would Love to ride ALL the TIME

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    Just some info for Canadian riders interested in the K60...there is a supplier here in BC...MTR Sports who is selling these tires at par with the USA and Rob charges no duty....check out the email he just sent that 3 of my 4 tires are in...take a look at the prices! The sizes are for the F650GS

    Good evening Leslie;<o:p></o:p>
    Great news, I have 3 of your tires here.<o:p></o:p>
    The fellow that mounts tires has decided that he does not want to mount tires on rims that are painted or might scratch. (only dirt bikes I guess)<o:p></o:p>
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    Richmond Motorsports used to charge $25.00 per tire, cash to the mechanic if the rims are off the bike.<o:p></o:p>
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    Description Cost Qty MTR SPORTS<o:p></o:p>
    <table class="MsoTableGrid" style="border: medium none; border-collapse: collapse;" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td style="border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 147.6pt;" valign="top" width="197"> Heidenau Front 110/80-19<o:p></o:p>
    </td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 104pt;" valign="top" width="139"> $ 139.00<o:p></o:p>
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    </td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 108pt;" valign="top" width="144"> $ 278.00<o:p></o:p>
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 147.6pt;" valign="top" width="197"> Heidenau Rear 140/80-17<o:p></o:p>
    </td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 104pt;" valign="top" width="139"> $ 155.00<o:p></o:p>
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    </td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 108pt;" valign="top" width="144"> $ 155.00<o:p></o:p>
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 147.6pt;" valign="top" width="197"> Enviro Fee <o:p></o:p>
    </td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 104pt;" valign="top" width="139"> $ 5.00<o:p></o:p>
    </td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 27pt;" valign="top" width="36"> 3 <o:p></o:p>
    </td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 108pt;" valign="top" width="144"> $ 15.00<o:p></o:p>
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 147.6pt;" valign="top" width="197"> Subtotal <o:p></o:p>
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    </td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 27pt;" valign="top" width="36"> <o:p> </o:p>
    </td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 108pt;" valign="top" width="144"> $ 448.00<o:p></o:p>
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 147.6pt;" valign="top" width="197"> Taxes<o:p></o:p>
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    </td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 27pt;" valign="top" width="36"> <o:p> </o:p>
    </td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 108pt;" valign="top" width="144"> $ 53.76<o:p></o:p>
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 147.6pt;" valign="top" width="197"> Amount Owing<o:p></o:p>
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    </td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 27pt;" valign="top" width="36"> <o:p> </o:p>
    </td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 108pt;" valign="top" width="144"> $ 501.76<o:p></o:p>
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    MTR SPORTS accepts Visa, MasterCard, Cheque or Cash<o:p></o:p>
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  14. Ducksbane

    Ducksbane Quaaack!!!

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    Thanks everyone ... I put 30psi in front and back ... get a chance to try it tomorrow and see how it goes.:clap
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  15. Gangplank

    Gangplank Advenchaintourer

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    Where can I get these?
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  16. soph9

    soph9 Would Love to ride ALL the TIME

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  17. Firefight911

    Firefight911 Been here awhile

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    A&S BMW can get them. That's where I got mine.
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  18. soph9

    soph9 Would Love to ride ALL the TIME

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    how much did A&S charge you?
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  19. Y E T I

    Y E T I Unpossible

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    And Moto Amore if he has them in stock. Great guy to deal with.
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  20. JUNAC

    JUNAC Straight Shooter

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    I've got K60's on my XR650L. Mounted at 5000 Km's. Now at 9500 Km's with very little wear on rear tire. Front still looks new. Run between 30-35 psi. Got them from Heindl Engineering in Ohio. Seems they were around $200 for the pair. Very stable. Don't think airing down has much effect. Very tough sidewalls, not alot of flex. Had a hard time mounting them.
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