Heidenau K60

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  1. blackfly911

    blackfly911 Meat Popsicle

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    The simple fact the K60 lasts a bazillion miles like some claim should be enough to say the tire compound will act like hockey pucks in sub zero conditions. There's a reason winter tires are a softer compound which gets eaten up faster in warm conditions.
  2. huckleberry

    huckleberry BACK ROAD BOMBER

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    i guess thats why the snow tires on my car have close to the same life as the allseason radials ihad on before them. I don't imagine that the mfg's DESIGN the tires to last a certain mileage do they?
  3. blackfly911

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    Designed then that way? Nah, manufactures don't design tires based on the hopes a buyer needs to replace one every 3-5k or less.

    Sarcasm aside, as a general statement... winter tires are a softer compound to provide some measure of grip in icy conditions. The K60 has been noted to be a somewhat ridged long wearing tire, indicative of a hard compound.

    As stated in a multitude of posts here, there is no "do all" tire that is excellent in all conditions, it's just a matter of finding the best tire that suits the type of riding you do most of the time. As for the dual sport or 50/50 nomenclature, I agree with you, it's used too much and in a lot of cases it's purely marketing. However, you're comment seems to be based on winter performance rather than what the tire is capable of under the conditions the manufacturer intended. If they were a capable winter tire, you know they'd be marketed as such.
  4. Tor

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    why are you playing around with K60's in the snow? Get the

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    you need for the conditions :deal.
  5. Flashback

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    I ordered mine before the whole Scout - non-scout issue became clear. I ordered K60s which Heidi corporate has listed (still) as a 4 season tire. I received Scouts.

    I'll own up to part of the issue being my lack of clarification in the order but at the time the tires were only being sold as "K60".

    Of interest, I did receive the 4 season winter K60 front with my Scout rear. The winter front is a superb and extremely long lasting front street tire.

    But I felt that even the rear was good on cold wet tarmac. Never a hint of temperature related slip, even on painted lines at 31 degrees.

    It's the medium that's the issue. Snow being obviously different than cold wet roads, was a challenge the Scout rear didn't live up to. The winter front did so much better in the snow than the Scout rear. It was night and day difference.

    Heidi Corporate K60 Winter tire link --> http://www.reifenwerk-heidenau.de/m...498f2dd0aa8e3f7430d820d7b1&profil=101&pic=107

    At the time they had 140s listed here as well.
  6. Flashback

    Flashback Mommys Lil Monster

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    It's hard to justify that for what may amount to 14 days total in a year that the roads are covered with snow.
  7. dendrophobe

    dendrophobe Motorbike Junky

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    Did anybody else cringe when they read the Road of Bones article in the new BMWMOA Owner's News when they started talking about their "Heindineau" tires? :baldy
  8. Flashback

    Flashback Mommys Lil Monster

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    Didn't see the article. You have a link? I'd be interested in reading it. I've got work coming up in the Kuril islands and we'll be based out of Magadan so it's of interest. I plan to ride the road of bones solo.

    NOT bringing a beemer or riding "dual sport tires" cough** I mean street tires.

    DR650 on dirt tires for me, something that I can repair in a lawnmower shop and know won't have issues with fuel, the rocks, or the mud that it'll be riding in. I can't afford the thousands of dollars it costs to have a chase vehicle to carry enough extra parts to rebuild the bike in the case of a breakdown. We'll have a hard enough time setting up base camp in some of the places we're going as it is without needing to ensure that we bring a "specialty shop" with us.
  9. Flashback

    Flashback Mommys Lil Monster

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    Note -> It occurred to me that my previous post might have sounded like a dig against BMW. It wasn't. I love my F8. Excellent bike. Fun to ride. Capable. Hands down does the job I need it to do.

    Appropriate tool for the job and in the case of a solo trip down the road of bones, the F8, without a lot of extra expense and contingency planning or support, is not what I'd consider to be the appropriate tool for my trip. Plus, the idea of a solo ride with a support crew is counter intuitive.

    In the Kurils we'll be operating solely on ATVs (no automobile capable "roads" where we're going) and the motorcycle I bring needs to at least minimally be able to operate under those conditions.

    I'm actually thinking of going with something smaller than the 650, maybe a 450.
  10. dendrophobe

    dendrophobe Motorbike Junky

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    Unfortunately not, the only online content they have is for members, and I've never even tried to view it. It was nothing special though; they used a motorcycle tour company to do it, Ewan and Charley style with support vehicle and everything.

    Your way sounds much more fun; that's something I hope to do one day.
  11. lmclamore

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    "I'm actually thinking of going with something smaller than the 650, maybe a 450."

    My friend zig-zagged all over North American on his Honda 350 in the early 70's. Nothing was DS and nothing was waterproof. Is was an adventure of a lifetime he still talks about 40 years later.
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    :freaky

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    thread hijack over.
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  14. Apostolos

    Apostolos Been here awhile

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    So far I like the new scouts.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    A few days ago I installed a 140/80 scout rear and 90/90 21 front. <o:p></o:p>
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    I just got back from an 800-mile trip down to southern California (it was all highway riding) and there was a discernable difference in the ride on the pavement. <o:p></o:p>
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    I think it's a smoother ride with the change between the scout and non-scout.<o:p></o:p>
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    I tooled around on my property (35-acres) and there seems to be no diminishment in off-road performance.<o:p></o:p>
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    I actually have an old style 140/80 k60 rear that I'm thinking about selling in order to replace it with the new scout. <o:p></o:p>
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    Hopefully, I will still get the high mileage out of the scout like I did with the old style.

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  15. costinell_mc

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    The front tire is mounted opposite ?
    I suppose the top of the arrow must be in the direction of the road?
    I don't know if you understand me
    Look at the front and rear tyre, the model of the tyre is not in the same direction
  16. WoodWorks

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    Your question has been answered here several times. This is the way Heidenaus are designed to be mounted, and this has been verified by looking at the direction-of-rotation arrow on the tires. The reason for this is that the main purpose of the tread on the rear tire is to get grip to go forward, whereas the main purpose of the tread in front is for steering control and stopping.
  17. Firefight911

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    Bingo! We've got a winner.:freaky:deal
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    That is too cool. The smile of accomplishment and a bike that you can fix yourself with a minimum of $$$.

  19. Flashback

    Flashback Mommys Lil Monster

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    That's too cool for school. Mine was a 1982 Yamaha Maxim 400 that I bought for $200. The only farkle on it was a custom mount I fabricated in my garage for a set of hard cases that I found at a yardsale. After going to the Arctic circle twice and Central America once the bike finally died it on my second trip through Mexico. I was in the desert just north of La Paz where I was going to grab the ferry to Mazatlan when the poor little air cooled engine took one last gasp, coughed, and said "I'm done".

    Unfortunately this was all before the time of digital cameras and a spurned lover torched all my photos when I was out of the country in 1996. But I still have one of the hard cases -> I had hand painted it with pink zebra stripes to add some flair to the ride.

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    Hijak ovr ->

    Wear on my K60 has almost stopped ??? :huh not sure why but I'm well over 5500 miles and have lost almost no tread in the last thousand miles.
  20. WoodWorks

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    That would match my, and several other inmate's experience. Both of my sets of K60s wore fairly quickly from 0-4K miles, and then slowed considerably after that. Dunno why. :dunno

    But after two sets that each lasted 11K miles, I'm not about to look a gift horse in the mouth.