Heidenau K60

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by upweekis, Apr 11, 2010.

  1. JBruyet

    JBruyet Mountain chaser

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    For those of you in the Pacific Northwest, I was just at South Sound BMW (Fife, WA) and was told that they are going to start carrying the Heidenau K60 tires. I tried to find out when they'd have them and all I got was "soon."

    FWIW,

    Joe B
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  2. soph9

    soph9 Would Love to ride ALL the TIME

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    MTR Sports also carries the H60's and will be getting another shipment in soon but not the rear 150's. 150's sound as though they will not make it to the North American market until end of summer. We ordered 2 compete sets of H60's through MTR and Rob was great to deal with.
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  3. Gangplank

    Gangplank Advenchaintourer

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    A&S says they are "unavailable" and don't see them coming anytime soon.

    Anyone have another place near SF / Reno that these could be ordered?
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  4. springfish

    springfish Been here awhile

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    Mine should be on my doorstep when I get home from work! Can't wait to toss my worn TKC80 and sport some new rubber.
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  5. Gangplank

    Gangplank Advenchaintourer

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    MotoAmore says end of June. A&S same.

    Guess I'll get an Anakee 2
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  6. soph9

    soph9 Would Love to ride ALL the TIME

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    call Rob at MTR...he has a warehouse in Blaine Washington...


    1.866.547.0911
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  7. Gangplank

    Gangplank Advenchaintourer

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    Just talked to him.. He has the fronts. All out of the rears.

    So its an Anakee or a Shinko.
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  8. The Griz

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    Should have my 140/80-17 and 90/90-21 K60's by Friday. :thumb

    Dealers are talking July now for the 150's.:dunno
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  9. dendrophobe

    dendrophobe Motorbike Junky

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    Perfect, right after I get back from Newfoundland and need some new rubber!

    I'm planning on TKC front, K60 rear...
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  10. ba_

    ba_ Long timer

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    That's what I'm currently planning as well. Anyone currently running this combo that can share their thoughts?
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  11. eddyturn

    eddyturn Wannabe

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    Griz... where did you find them? Trying to find some but it's not been successful. If you wanted to PM me...
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  12. springfish

    springfish Been here awhile

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    ZMW just got a shipment in (front/rear) in the 140 size. Not sure if he has any left as most were spoken for, but it's worth a shot if you're looking.

    Frank Zabriskie
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    http://www.zmwadventures@gmail.com
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  13. The Griz

    The Griz Long timer

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    Yeah got mine at ZMW. They were all spoken for though. Sorry.

    Contrary to the gossip (some of which I had prescribed to), Frank filled me in on the truth regarding the delays and low #'s from Heidenau in Germany. He heard this directly from Heidenau USA, who was told it from Heidenau in Germany. Due to EN standards, European tire manufacturers have been forced to cease use of a certain acid. This specific acid was used to speed up cooling/drying of the tire while the tire was in the molds, so that they could pull the tire out of the mold within 4-5 minutes. Heidenau being a small operation and facility, this helped immensly, so they could keep their production numbers up to meet demand. However, since all EU tire manufacturers have been forced to halt use of this acid, it now takes 45 minutes of wait time before the tire can be pulled from the mold. This has slowed Heidenau's production considerably, on top of the fact that they are a small outfit in the first place. Output from the Heidenau plant has been reduced from over 1,000 tires per day to around 100. This is an EU-wide thing. Expect the same delays from any other EU small-sized tire manufacturer. He went on to confirm that it has nothing to do with a change in rubber compound. They never changed the compound. The compound remains the same, 140 and 150 alike. The only reason the 150 is even harder to get is because there isn't as much of a demand for them worldwide as the 140's. And again, being they are a small operation and can only output very few tires per day, they've decided to meet the demand for the 140 first.

    So there you have it.
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  14. soph9

    soph9 Would Love to ride ALL the TIME

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    so that is the story....I bet they never guessed that their tire would be the talk of adventure forums!
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  15. raider

    raider Big red dog

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    Yes, I've changed to this combo 500km ago and so far, only used it commuting. My thoughts were posted earlier in this thread, but to summarise compared to Anakees:

    -No noticed extra vibes
    -Whining noise at higher speeds (>100km/h), probably from the front
    -High speed stability doesn't seem affected up to 140km/h indicated, front becomes a little vague at 160km/h indicated
    -Steering seems more stable straight ahead, a little slower to respond to minor input, but turn in is faster (must be a higher-camber profile) and there is a noticeable lean angle where you fall "between the knobs" on the K60 rear that seems a little weird at first, but you get used to it
    -Dry bitumen grip is fine for urban use
    -Only tried the combo in the wet once, when they were brand new, so was very apprehensive

    I've not done any dirt on them yet, but my run into the work parking lot includes a 300m "shortcut" across some wet grass and sand, and this was always butt-puckering on the Anakees but feels fine on the new combo.

    One thing I have noticed is the 21" front TKC has a very different tread pattern to smaller (19") sizes. The blocks are smaller, more numerous, and have a much smaller gap between them. There are no obvious "rows" of knobs as the centre and shoulder blocks are offset. It would therefore be a completely different ride to the 19" tyre, which actually seems more aggressive.
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  16. Y E T I

    Y E T I Unpossible

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    Been running the combo for over 5k miles so far. Great combination as far as I'm concerned, the TKC front and K60 rear seem to wear at about hte same rate too which is nice. Great traction in the dirt. I'm not willing to test the edges on the road (not on any tire for that matter) but for as hard as I've pushed them they've been perfect.
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  17. The Griz

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    Can you post a pic of your rear K60 and state exact mileage? If you can... Thanks my man!!:D
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  18. DockingPilot

    DockingPilot Hooked Up and Hard Over

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    Im running a 140. Not sure if its related but Im about 3 miles behind for every 100 on the ODO compared to the GPS calculated mileage.
    I also never balance my wheels and cannot tell the difference even at 90mph.
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  19. M N B

    M N B would rather be riding

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    That's a 3% speedo error. I'm distracted and low on caffeine, but I THINK that means your speedo reads high... Easy enough to verify since you have a GPS. Just crank her up to 60 or so (higher speeds are better) and compare the GPS to the on board speedo.

    The stock speedo on my 800 is pretty accurate up to 45 or so and not off by that much at higher speeds (like 5mph at 80, which is more than 3% error).
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  20. itsforrest

    itsforrest Ugly bag of mostly water

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    The 140 is actually a taller tire than the 150 due to the different aspect ratio. This will make the speedo and odo read low when using a 140 compared to the 150.
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